Enough is enough....
- Thread starter CRISPY5
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It's just a car. And yes, the civic is a much better platform for just about um...everything. The PR5 is neat because it is a unique car with a nice build quality. If honda could have kept the civic closer to the 96-00 I probably would have bought a 02 civic instead of an 02 PR5.pingdum said:
I'd much rather cruise through downtown in my Pr5 with the sunroof down than in my obnoxious, no power steering, no power anything, 10 year old interior civic. But can you get $1200 turbo kits for a PR5? Can you find $100 bottom end when you blow your PR5 motor in a weekend? Probably not. To say civics are too popular is retarded, the parts availability is insane. Have fun only having 2 choices for something as basic as a damn intake!
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I just hate Mazda sells the worst Familias to us. Actually, most of people r just attracted by it's lookin' more than everythin' that they have to consider about. The P5s r so much worse than the Japanese version such as lower hp, cheap interior, etc. However, Toyota and honda sell better corollas and civics than the Japanese version such as more hp!! I love my P5, but I just hate the ******' Mazda sell the worst familia to us with that s*** price. Everybody thinks the price of P5 is cheap(around U.S.$13000 for a brand new car), but if they sell it in Japan, the price must be lower than U.S.10000 or no one wants to buy it!! I just hate the motherfuckin' Mazda company:flip:Not MY P5(redp5)
I just hate Mazda sells the worst Familias to us. Actually, most of people r just attracted by it's lookin' more than everythin' that they have to consider about. The P5s r so much worse than the Japanese version such as lower hp, cheap interior, etc. However, Toyota and honda sell better corollas and civics than the Japanese version such as more hp!! I love my P5, but I just hate the ******' Mazda sell the worst familia to us with that s*** price. Everybody thinks the price of P5 is cheap(around U.S.$13000 for a brand new car), but if they sell it in Japan, the price must be lower than U.S.10000 or no one wants to buy it!! I just hate the motherfuckin' Mazda company:flip:Not MY P5(redp5)
Turbo Matty P
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no, mazda ecu suck balls....true the protege is a ford EEC4 ecu, but it's tuned by mazda.....for reference my stock ecu on my turbo pinto will handle up to 350whp on the factory EFI system. Seems like maybe ford is a tad better at tuning there 18year old ECU's (I'm running a 1986 Thunderchicken Turbocoupe motor and ecu, fuel system, exhaust etc...)mp5jeff said:
leungwingkei
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Who cares what engine size and technolgoy they make the power with? It's the result that counts. Ok, so maybe a 1.6 weighs less than a 2.0.Replica said:
I respect someone who puts thousands in their econobox to make it fast. But is it really worth it? For draging, the money spent to make a V8 fast is much less than any Honda can manage.
Yes, Honda motors do rev faster, but they need to to extract the amazing 111lb/ft torque from their B16.
leungwingkei
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How fast you're going is not important. I can be on Shinkasen train at near 200mph speeds, will I be having fun?? Nope.
The important thing is having fun, and fast is not always fun.
The important thing is having fun, and fast is not always fun.
anarchistchiken
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Stop bitchin at each other. Everyone here loves the P5 or they wouldn't be here. They're not very quick. Deal. Like leungwingkei said, if you want pure fast, go with an 82 transam. If you want fun, go P5. I mean our car, like every car, has its advantages and dissadvantages, but that doesnt mean we cant be friends and agree that it's a kickass little car.
leungwingkei
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My P5 was kick ass until the alignment went wack...LOL.
OK.... passion for the car's handling and body style aside. For a 4-cylinder, this engine neither revs smoothly or freely. Acceleration is terribly slow. Noise proofing could stand some beefing up.
I get really confused when people talk about the great torque that the car has or how great the above is.
However, I will say that the handling and body style are good. It's a stylish, well handling, fun cheapish car.
- ZoomFive
I get really confused when people talk about the great torque that the car has or how great the above is.
However, I will say that the handling and body style are good. It's a stylish, well handling, fun cheapish car.
- ZoomFive
Just remember that sometimes what may appear as bitching is nothing more than either:
A.vented fustration at trying to reach a goal
B.Desire to spark conversation on how to reach a said goal.
C.Just people joking around.
D.The sometimes annoyance that occupies all forums:Troll
A.vented fustration at trying to reach a goal
B.Desire to spark conversation on how to reach a said goal.
C.Just people joking around.
D.The sometimes annoyance that occupies all forums:Troll
andyfatsax
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Personally I love the Honda/Mazda debate. Or the civic VS protege debate. I have had 2 civics and this is my 1st Protege. Civic = top end, Protege = Bottom end. That is what happens when you put a truck engine in a protege chassis.
Personally I would take a stock P5 over a Civic SI any day....When it comes down to value. When it comes to modding existing engine, hard to say. All I know is I promised myself I would never go lower than a 2.0L again cause the torque-less wonder (civic) just didn't do it for me. I just miss Vtec. Maybe if I get a Mazda 3 with DOHC 2.3L Variable Valve timing I will be happy.
Personally I would take a stock P5 over a Civic SI any day....When it comes down to value. When it comes to modding existing engine, hard to say. All I know is I promised myself I would never go lower than a 2.0L again cause the torque-less wonder (civic) just didn't do it for me. I just miss Vtec. Maybe if I get a Mazda 3 with DOHC 2.3L Variable Valve timing I will be happy.
rt66protege
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Amen! 
I looove my protege lx. She's so purty and drives so nicely!
I looove my protege lx. She's so purty and drives so nicely!
