Cp-e problem with me

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lets not get PG involved in this, it has nothing to do with them. Its between cp-e, laloosh and a few mentions of mrlilguy.

Then mrlilguy has no place in this thread either...if people want to dig up old news then bring it all up. Ken handled that situation awesomely...Felt bad that he got put through it like he did.
 
Last time I checked the forum wasn't owned by CP-E. Also if they have facts to prove otherwise, they should provide it. They're using the forum to sell their products. And everything they hear isn't going to be a bed of roses.
A warning? a threat? in this case it's same thing. They have yet to disprove laloosh's findings. Also remember, he logged his data with THEIR equipment.
Cp-e doesn't own the forum, but they pay for thier section. He did make his logs with their equipment-which he then says is junk also..

I agree with you. There are times to ask customers to leave. Ive done it.

But I can honestly say that if there were ANY customers who were witness to it, who felt I overstepped my right, then I would have made a bad decision.

Loosh wasnt anywhere near the example you used. And the witnesses to the public part of the incident are at least evenly split on who was to blame.

That's the issue with the internet, not everythings public and their is a great deal of context that is lost when people post little random quotes. Words are easy to twist to defend you position, whatever it may be. The fact is that laloosh's complaint was that cp-e didn't agree with him. It had nothing to do with any of cp-e's products. They hurt his pride..

It's pretty easy to determint the intent of this thread though--That's the only reason I even posted in here.. I will continue to give my money to whatever vendor makes to better product, regardless of the drama of the
monent..

If you worked for me and you threw a customer out, and then cost me a customer for your action. You would get warned once. the second time you would be fired. And it wouldnt matter how right or wrong the customer was in my decision. I dont hire people who cost me money. I try to hire problem solvers.

I've never actually had to throw someoneout , but I've had tro ask more than a couple to leave. We did have to pull the gun on a bum with a machete once though(eek2)
 
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Then mrlilguy has no place in this thread either...if people want to dig up old news then bring it all up. Ken handled that situation awesomely...Felt bad that he got put through it like he did.

bulls*** it doesnt! CP-E threw mrlilguy under the bus! its a fact.. they didnt keep their end of the bargain. Hell, if i knew this would of happened, i would have started my own approved vending status and had Jonathon and I sell this, not giving once ounce of information to anyone! Ken hardly got the bad end of the deal dude.
 
bulls*** it doesnt! CP-E threw mrlilguy under the bus! its a fact.. they didnt keep their end of the bargain. Hell, if i knew this would of happened, i would have started my own approved vending status and had Jonathon and I sell this, not giving once ounce of information to anyone! Ken hardly got the bad end of the deal dude.

I can tell by your attitude that you'd be doing real well...Free country man -- sell the pump if you want :)
 
I can tell by your attitude that you'd be doing real well...Free country man -- sell the pump if you want :)

You would be surprised of my capabilities... Ive had many successes in the hotrod community. What is sad is how the import scene acts, especially since youre dealing with kids 90% of the time. What colour is your cheerleading outfit bud?
 
somebody please show me where, proir to this thread, I was bashing any of their prducts or service. direct quote me or show me the link
 
somebody please show me where, proir to this thread, I was bashing any of their prducts or service. direct quote me or show me the link

they are just speculating Loosh.. Thats what cheerleaders do when flying their colours.

its alright, truth will come out sooner or later. Goodluck CP-E, youre going to need it when Cobb comes full force after this market. Mazda already hinted at MS3 production going one more year.
 
bulls*** it doesnt! CP-E threw mrlilguy under the bus! its a fact.. they didnt keep their end of the bargain. Hell, if i knew this would of happened, i would have started my own approved vending status and had Jonathon and I sell this, not giving once ounce of information to anyone! Ken hardly got the bad end of the deal dude.

Sounds like you mad a bad buisness decision then, why are you complaining about it here..

I can tell by your attitude that you'd be doing real well...Free country man -- sell the pump if you want :)
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If your selling the same thing for less money you'd probably sell a few. But I remember mrlilguy's orginal 300% markup so you probably would have been more expensive than PG anyway..
 
A question I have is why are people blaming CPE for banning laloosh? CPE asked laloosh to not be able to post in their section -- not to be banned from the forums. the mods are the ones that banned him...well I guess the admin according to cosmic. Shouldn't this qualm be taken up with the admin?

Your statement after your question answered the question or am I missing something. The mods and the administrator banned him because CPE asked them to. I think the administrator knows he made a bit of a mistake by reinstating him one day later.

Meanwhile, with laloosh back, the fallout remains and the microscope has been turned on CPE. They seem like decent guys, but their business practices are whats being discussed here.

How can you not see this?

If Ken had a prominent dude banned on his section it would cause a similar fallout. hell, Kens section IS his complaint section. And he lets it sit as the situations are remedied. Threads are rarely locked that Ive seen and Ive NEVER seen a guy banned unless I missed it. The think the idea is ludicrous.
 
Dude...likewise...we can agree to disagree!!! I have nothing against you AT ALL...or anyone here for that matter. You and I disagree a lot on the other forums but it's always friendly which is awesome...perhaps someday we can sit down over some good brews and shoot the s*** and laugh at times like this on the forums? you support COBB, much Like i support CPE :) We have our reasons, I have nothin against cobb...i wanted their Ap but CPE is local...and I see their solution being available sooner rather than later. Jordan was telling me how they got to talk to Trey and the rest of the COBB guys at SEMA and they had some great conversations...glad to see friendliness between competitors as always.

I guess I don't see it as an iron fist because if misinformation was being spread...especially about that company, then its not helping anyone. I only read into CPE's words asking for more data from laloosh as saying "hey...we got different numbers...can we see more data so we can see why they may have been different?" That was for some reason taken personally and then this whole thing got blown up.

A question I have is why are people blaming CPE for banning laloosh? CPE asked laloosh to not be able to post in their section -- not to be banned from the forums. the mods are the ones that banned him...well I guess the admin according to cosmic. Shouldn't this qualm be taken up with the admin?
+1 on the first part of your post.

About the bold:
I think the issue comes down to CP-E wanting him out and getting their way.

If CP-E had nothing to do with the ban at all, then this discussion is null and void.
 
Sounds like you mad a bad buisness decision then, why are you complaining about it here..


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If your selling the same thing for less money you'd probably sell a few. But I remember mrlilguy's orginal 300% markup so you probably would have been more expensive than PG anyway..

Youre a moron, how is it i made a bad business decision? All thats going to happen is any ideas that we come up with in the future, will never be shared again. Not mad at all. Im appalled at CPE telling Jonathon one thing, than doing another. Keeping your word is very important in ANY relationship.. whether its personal or business.

Please keep PG out of this discussion.
 
I'm done with this thread.

Hope you guy's get everything straightend out, but I don't think the guy's a CP-e are going to admit to worshipping the devil, or swindeling all the senior citizens out of thier retirement funds.

good luck
 
You would be surprised of my capabilities... Ive had many successes in the hotrod community. What is sad is how the import scene acts, especially since youre dealing with kids 90% of the time. What colour is your cheerleading outfit bud?

Why the personal attacks? Cheerleading outfit...hm It's cosmic blue to match my car...cute eh? Why are you so interested in my cheerleading outfit?

I too was hesitant about getting into the import community because of it being kids...granted from the polls (which we know are so accurate lol) show most people are older :-\ Congrats on your successes in the hot rod community. Maybe you can have the same in the import community.
 
bulls*** it doesnt! CP-E threw mrlilguy under the bus! its a fact.. they didnt keep their end of the bargain. Hell, if i knew this would of happened, i would have started my own approved vending status and had Jonathon and I sell this, not giving once ounce of information to anyone! Ken hardly got the bad end of the deal dude.

mrlilguy lied to Ken about having all kinds of support from autotech about the pump. He convinced Ken to buy pumps b/c of his "close relationship" with autotech. Autotech came on and put things right and Ken came out the wiser. Props to Jonathan for sourcing the solution but if he really had the community's interest at heart, he could have just said, "buy these internals for $350 here and do it yourself." He didn't. He got Ken to buy the internals at full retail and try to mark them up from that and sell them. Ever wonder why the price of the pump suddenly dropped from the initial $629? http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3459738&postcount=46

It's not fair to bring the mrlilguy situation into this without the facts. Keep it to Laloosh v cp-e or better yet, let it die.
 
mrlilguy lied to Ken about having all kinds of support from autotech about the pump. He convinced Ken to buy pumps b/c of his "close relationship" with autotech. Autotech came on and put things right and Ken came out the wiser. Props to Jonathan for sourcing the solution but if he really had the community's interest at heart, he could have just said, "buy these internals for $350 here and do it yourself." He didn't. He got Ken to buy the internals at full retail and try to mark them up from that and sell them. Ever wonder why the price of the pump suddenly dropped from the initial $629? http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3459738&postcount=46

It's not fair to bring the mrlilguy situation into this without the facts. Keep it to Laloosh v cp-e or better yet, let it die.


NOOOOOO,

MUST, NOT, SEE, THE , OTHER, SIDE...


Ok, that's it.. I'm really done.
 
+1 on the first part of your post.

About the bold:
I think the issue comes down to CP-E wanting him out and getting their way.

If CP-E had nothing to do with the ban at all, then this discussion is null and void.

well... CPE wanting him to stop posting in their sections was reasonable I think. just like mazdaspeed33 kept posting crap about **********, he was warnd to stop, he did (as far as I know) Laloosh was warned...

CPE may be a paying sponsor, but the mods are the ones who decide to ban someone...cpe asked for him to not be able to post in their section because they felt he was spreading misinformation, instead the admin decided to ban him.

This thread is turning personal for some other people so i too am out of it...I have some good friends on the boards But i have been growing tired of all the personal attacks people like to make when they can sit behind a keyboard :-\ Especially when we're all on the same side...we want products for our car. I hate to see all these people threating CPE when CPE does so much for our community...If they were truely a bad company i wouldn't stand behind them...but I have yet to see them do anything evil like you all seem to think.

*shrug* Opinions are like assholes...everyones got em.
 
mrlilguy lied to Ken about having all kinds of support from autotech about the pump. He convinced Ken to buy pumps b/c of his "close relationship" with autotech. Autotech came on and put things right and Ken came out the wiser. Props to Jonathan for sourcing the solution but if he really had the community's interest at heart, he could have just said, "buy these internals for $350 here and do it yourself." He didn't. He got Ken to buy the internals at full retail and try to mark them up from that and sell them. Ever wonder why the price of the pump suddenly dropped from the initial $629? http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3459738&postcount=46

It's not fair to bring the mrlilguy situation into this without the facts. Keep it to Laloosh v cp-e or better yet, let it die.

Why dont you go post this little story on the other forum where everybody tries to flame PG for gouging the market? Anybody who followed that thread could "read between the lines" and knew EXACTLY why that price dropped. Im glad I heard you confirm it though.... Cashmere among others has used that story as his prime example of how unethical, and what a ripoff, PG is.....

I think CPE is good guys. I kind of compare them to mrlilguy though. I dont think they understand the business aspect of this scene. Its a little over their head right now. Their products are good, and they fill a need.... I just think they need a publicist and a little business counseling.

Ultimately ..is what they did to Laloosh that big a deal? No.. in the sit around the campfire, I dont wanna talk to you way..... And YES, in the we want to play with the big boys in the hottest current tuner car way. They lobbed a bomb into the place we all congregate when were not driving or "under" our car.
 
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Mellman has pretty much stated my opinion on the matter several times in this thread.

There's a lot of belly achin' going on.

I'm a big boy though. I can make my own decisions on who to buy from. I keep my experience one on one with companies. So far, CP-E has been nothing but nice to me. Protege Garage was also very nice to me, even if our deal didn't work out.
 
Laloosh: excellent times! They are amazing *especially* considering you were on snow tires! It would've been interesting to see your times on real tires. It sounds like the pump is amazing, but definitely not a miracle upgrade ;)

I'm honestly not sure why you are bringing any issue you have with CP-e to this forum. If you had/have an issue with them that you wanted resolved, you would've contacted Jordan/Josh and worked it out. If you wanted to make a big deal about the whole thing and gain publicity (to "knock CP-e down a notch" or any other reason, then I'm assuming that is why you created this thread. I think it really just shows that you were looking for more than "to resolve the issue at hand".

(As an aside, it would be interesting to see ages of all of the people whining in this thread.)
 
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