Cobb AP!!! It's orderable on the Cobb website!

[stefano18]

I am confused about something
this is for stage 1 with intake

Boost Targets: ~17.6psi peak boost
pressure tapering down to ~7psi by the 6700 RPM redline, +/-
1.5psi.
does this mean you only get 7psi at redline? or does it drop 7psi by redline?
also what does the ms3 do stock for psi at redline? I don't have a boost gauge..

 

[Demi]

I think it means it drops to 7. I will have to check tomorrow but boost falls off hard past 5500. In Turbo they had a similar issue with the Evo X and installed a high end boost controller to hold boost all the way to the redline. I wonder if anyone has installed an HKS controller and what they have found.

 

[smakdown61]

They purposely reduce the boost that much. This turbo at high rpm's = flame thrower if at high boost. Hot air = potential damage. I would NOT do anything to try and make this turbo hold boost to redline...it just physically can't.

 

[stefano18]

I see, but has any one checked what are cars are doing stock for PSI at redline?? I would check but don't have a boost gauge

 

[NortzideMS3GT]

about 7-8 psi right at 6500


My solution, shift 2-3 3-4 around 5700, before the boost lowers.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

you actually want to go a little past where the boost lowers to get the rpm's higher for the next shift so your not low in your rpm range in the next gear. as long as your turbo is spooled within a reasonable boost range you should be fine.

 

[LtTroyer]

Sub

 

[funkyman]

So far the CObb AP is a waist of money period ,so they better come up with better gains than flimsy 10hp for 700usd,my PG manifold and CAI alone provide 20-22hp to the wheels are you guys out of your flippin heads or something.An Ecu tune is supposed to deliver at least 70-80hp to the wheels with supporting mods like DP TP manifold etc.That would be stage2-3,so as a community we expect a better tune or effort.

 

[Demi]

Well thats my big question, how does it work as a tuning solution? Obviously you can control boost and redline, but how much control over fuel and stuff does this actually give you? Wasnt that the big deal with the standback not being the end all be all tuning device? If the control is there then the tune comes down to the tuner, though i will admit that 10 hp or so is kinda silly on a car that runs this rich.

 

[dread]

There is not control until the release the street tuner software. All you can do is switch between the maps they already supplied.

 

[gbalanced]

Ok, first of all this is their initial tune. If you look at the other cars on their like the STi you can see that they have been through 4 to 11 updated MAP's, which is probably why they gain 10-15% power/tq. But it's not just about the peak hp/tq gains, or it definitely makes it not worth the money at all. It's the gains across most of the rev range, the economy mode (which if you read about the map should bump up our average fuel mileage anywhere between 2-5mpg) and the launch control that is sure to be released with the next map.

I definitely want to hear back from the people who have already put this on their car. I want to see some real dyno's, actual improvements in mpg, and know if you can really feel the difference. I think that Cobb is just being conservative with their gains because they don't want people to buy the Accessport and then file a suit or complain about how it didn't give them 80 tq to the ground. From what I have seen from the dyno's posted on here, an intake alone brings you up to the gains they talk about from the stage1+. I have no doubt in my mind that, with an intake and the Accessport, we will be seeing ms3's with at least 300hp to the crank.

So hurry up people. Post some results. I want to order mine, too!

 

[dread]

I have stage one with ms cai all is running well. Much smoother car feels lighter although there isn't that much more power now. Definately easier to drive more like a powerful v6 than a turbo 4. I am pleased with the results.

 

[Mspeed3]

wow didnt know if these maps would work with MS CAI

 

[MS3077]

Wasn't there a stop sale on the MS CAI?

 

[funkyman]

As i said,unless an electronic tuning product worth 700usd gives at least 40-50hp to a turbo charged car that is already 260hp stock, then it is not worth 700usd end of discussion.Open it up again when there are convincing or rather significant gains like 50hp to the wheel.No point playing around with the ECU for a flimsy 10-15hp.

 

[JoseloSpeed3]

As i said,unless an electronic tuning product worth 700usd gives at least 40-50hp to a turbo charged car that is already 260hp stock, then it is not worth 700usd end of discussion.Open it up again when there are convincing or rather significant gains like 50hp to the wheel.No point playing around with the ECU for a flimsy 10-15hp.

50 hp?? Wow kid get a life....the car is a 4 cyl turbo not an inline six turbo charged or a v8 supercharged. All you think about is speed, you are retarded, you have to think about the cars driveability and that after about 320 hp you need other supporting mods. So stop complaining and wait with patience for cobbs follow up tune...........s***.

 

[Young Roids]

As i said,unless an electronic tuning product worth 700usd gives at least 40-50hp to a turbo charged car that is already 260hp stock, then it is not worth 700usd end of discussion.Open it up again when there are convincing or rather significant gains like 50hp to the wheel.No point playing around with the ECU for a flimsy 10-15hp.

I agree mainly. If this thing produced 30whp I would call it good. But it didn't give us anywhere near 30 so I call it crap.

 

[Demi]

Rome wasnt built in a day gentlemen. Lets all calm down a smidge amd give these guy some time to perfect their product. They were under then gun to get it out and we have no idea what this thing can do with out the software and some field tuning.

 

[dkswim]

i got it installed today nice gains really got rid of that off/on feel i used to have when your trying to accellarate briskfully but not get into boost. it feels faster not extramly faster, but better non the less. ill have to give it some time to learn but im happy with it.

 

[nig3]

has anyone tried this with CAI and TBE yet?? Im curious what it would do for me, because i put down 280whp and 322wtq with my TBE, CAI and boost set at 17 psi. I wonder if i could still run 17psi with the cobb AP??????