Cobb AP!!! It's orderable on the Cobb website!

[squabbin]

Okay, let me restate my plan. IF (big IF) I can work a deal with Yimi Motorsports to let me do a few dyno pulls first with the stock mid-pipe back on, then putting the CS mid-pipe back on and doing a few more dyno pulls for a fair price......then I will contribute for the "sake of science."

If I can pull that plan off, it will accomplish two things:

1. Gains from AP alone
2. Gains from CS mid-pipe alone

(stooges)

ZooZoom if you could somehow out of the kindness of your heart manage to do this both for yourself and the rest of us it would be much appreciated. I already have an AP on the way so my inquiry is more for the CS Mid-pipe gains however others i'm sure will want to know both. Good Luck!

 

[aaronc7]

 

[Young Roids]

Again... where did you see this?? I'm seeing that the stage one + intake offers +6.6% HP / +8.6% lb. ft. So... 263 x .066 = 17.358. Sure it's not much but it's not less.

One thing I'm not sure of though, is the 6.6% gain compared to bone stock or would it be compared to the hp you get with the intake without the AP?

I will try and dig it up. It was a dyno from cobb themselves.

 

[Young Roids]

Quote from Josh!
"The peak power numbers for these graphs are as follows:
Stock = 247 ft. lb. TQ / 212 WHP
Stage1 + SF = 267 ft. lb. TQ / 222 WHP (20 WTQ, +10WHP)
Stage2 + SF Intake = 279 ft. lb. TQ / 232 WHP (32WTQ, +20 WHP)"

 

[iBoost]

(321fu) ....*wait, wrong one*..... (yippy)

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

haha i know where you keep your wallet now. im going to steal your money. haha. you have no money and im rich. coincidence? i think not.

 

[iBoost]

haha i know where you keep your wallet now. im going to steal your money. haha. you have no money and im rich. coincidence? i think not.

That wallet doesnt have any money in it - it all went on the Cobb AP lol.

 

[PeterC]

The peak numbers might not have changed all that much, but look at how long that power is held. Look at Stage 2 PLUS...right there you are looking at a huge difference in how the car will drive.

 

[frito]

I wonder how you back out the drive train loss and if you can do this linearly or approximate it as such. If you say that the drivtrain loss is found by 263/212=1.24 then 1.24*232= 287hp and for torque 280/247=1.13 then 1.13*279 = 315.

So the car specs would be 287 HP / 315 Ft Lbs and that is not at all bad.

 

[PeterC]

Quote from Josh!
"The peak power numbers for these graphs are as follows:
Stock = 247 ft. lb. TQ / 212 WHP
Stage1 + SF = 267 ft. lb. TQ / 222 WHP (20 WTQ, +10WHP)
Stage2 + SF Intake = 279 ft. lb. TQ / 232 WHP” (32WTQ, +20 WHP)"

Well those numbers are obviously out of date because the official product page says +6.6% HP / +8.6% lb. ft. So, the calculations are:

Stage 1 PLUS = +21 lb. ft. and +14 HP
Stock + SRI = +16 lb. ft. and +11 HP

http://www.accessecu.com/accessport/mazda/07-08MS3Maps.html
http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3483

Not that this is a huge gain, but the torque curve is also better than just the SRI alone. Not sure if I can justify $700 for it though.

[edit] Actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize this is really nothing to write home about at all. The Subies get much better results from ECU tuning. I guess the MS3 is really tapped as far as the ECU is concerned.

 

[Demi]

[edit] Actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize this is really nothing to write home about at all. The Subies get much better results from ECU tuning. I guess the MS3 is really tapped as far as the ECU is concerned.

I wouldnt say so as rich as this thing runs. The "Extreme" Speed3 netting 30whp from a tune if i remember correctly. Im thinking that these are pretty conservative tunes. I guess we will see as people take theirs in to get tuned as apposed to the base maps.

 

[Shane5425]

we are gonna have to start a Data base of tunes with Mods listed in a discription so we can go and download ones that have similiar mods..

 

[Mspeed3]

Im gonna wait till protuner software comes out because I dont have a cobb sri and I want a tune custom to my car and mods for maximum results

 

[MS3077]

Well those numbers are obviously out of date because the official product page says +6.6% HP / +8.6% lb. ft. So, the calculations are:

Stage 1 PLUS = +21 lb. ft. and +14 HP
Stock + SRI = +16 lb. ft. and +11 HP

http://www.accessecu.com/accessport/mazda/07-08MS3Maps.html
http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3483

Not that this is a huge gain, but the torque curve is also better than just the SRI alone. Not sure if I can justify $700 for it though.

[edit] Actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize this is really nothing to write home about at all. The Subies get much better results from ECU tuning. I guess the MS3 is really tapped as far as the ECU is concerned.

I'm pretty sure it's +16HP and +11 lb. ft.

I think you're getting the HP and TQ numbers backwards

 

[PeterC]

I'm pretty sure it's +16HP and +11 lb. ft.

I think you're getting the HP and TQ numbers backwards

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3483

 

[Young Roids]

Well those numbers are obviously out of date because the official product page says +6.6% HP / +8.6% lb. ft. So, the calculations are:

Stage 1 PLUS = +21 lb. ft. and +14 HP
Stock + SRI = +16 lb. ft. and +11 HP

http://www.accessecu.com/accessport/mazda/07-08MS3Maps.html
http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3483

Not that this is a huge gain, but the torque curve is also better than just the SRI alone. Not sure if I can justify $700 for it though.

[edit] Actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize this is really nothing to write home about at all. The Subies get much better results from ECU tuning. I guess the MS3 is really tapped as far as the ECU is concerned.

Thank You! Peterc. Someone has finally came to their senses about this thing
. I know you were all waiting and waiting for this AP to work miracles on the MS3. Well, turns out it didn't. The Piasini flash might be what we are looking for. Initial graphs look promising but I haven't seen any real proof yet(hopefully we will have some soon.). So untill then I think that there are much better options to choose with $700 than the AP. I am not trying to bash COBB for the sake of bashing them I think their intake is the best on on the market but this AP did not deliver.

 

[Betelgeuse]

IMO, it's way too early to say the AP did not deliver. And If I buy that AP, it's not just for the peak hp either. It's for the entire package: the ability to monitor my car, the ability to flash and not butcher the wiring harness, the antitheft feature, to tune it later if I decide to add more mods and of course the improved hp/tq curve. Whoever said the curves don't matter must be smoking something. And improved curve can make a car with the same peak hp/tq feel like a completely different machine.

 

[MS3077]

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3483

Cobb Tuning SF Short Ram Intake System
Application: Mazdaspeed 3
Years: 2007 and up
Part Number: 771500

Netting a + 11 lb. ft. and + 16 HP, the COBB Tuning SF Intake for the Mazdaspeed 3 utilizes a custom CFD design to maintain optimal flow and generate ideal performance. The OEM MazdaSpeed 3 airbox is the most restrictive stock intake we have seen to date. Simply replacing it with the COBB Intake will allow your MazdaSpeed3 safe and consistent power gains!

 

[PeterC]

Where are you seeing that? The link I gave to Cobb's site says the exact opposite.

 

[MS3077]

Where are you seeing that? The link I gave to Cobb's site says the exact opposite.

That was off of Street Units website. I guess they're wrong.. opps