car goes boom(pics)

[DeanSweet]

so let me get this straight... I have a simple CAI on my car and Mazda tags it as 'no longer under drivetrain warranty' well before my 50k/4yrs was up but your dealership is replacing your engine with all your mods. Hell, I may have to move down your to take my car to your dealership. Curious if that will hold true once the local mazda rep checks it out?

I'm not a turbo guy so I can't say your mods were a direct cause for this failure but I'm sure it didnt help matters.
My question to you is... Are you putting the car back to stock once you get it back or are you keeping all the mods on?

Keep us posted.

 

[blackmica08]

No sweat its covered right? Everyone is guilty of typing stupid s*** out of frustration. Good luck

absolulety correct sir, i had calm down already and most likely i will keep the car, but this time i will make sure nothing like that happens again.

 

[Conso]

built motor!, thats y i went w/ the 76r so i can shove in a lil more boost when she does blow lol

 

[xtrememps]

first you can go **** yourself, 2nd i was out of boost when it happened and even the tech told me that it had nothing to do with boost, last week a stock mazdaspped3 blew a rod through the block, and no im not paying for s*** is all under warranty.

First of all watch your mouth, second of all I see one mod missing from your list. It's called forged internals...I don't care if you were in boost or not if you slap a bigger turbo on just because you weren't in boost THAT SECOND you probably have been weakening things slowly. Metal gets fatigued over time. Lesson learned I guess. Sucks either way, just don't get pissy when people call it like it is eh?

 

[blackmica08]

God, get off the guy's back. If your car blew (collectively "your", not anyone in particular), you'd all be pretty pissed too. Shame on him for trying to share his experience I guess. I agree that he came off a little rough calling the car a POS, but let it go. He has.

Regardless if this was his fault or Mazda's or the f'n tooth fairy's, the more information that we all have, the better to figure out where the line in the sand is for the MS3 (and by virtue of that, my car! ). Hope everything works out...

Definitely don't call out the dealer who's helping you, BTW. Wait until you are covered...

i wont mind let anyone here who is in need to give them the dealer i went to but i think is unwise to post it online, something like that happens and everybody jumps on you, i just came from the dealer and i saw two speed3 engines with less than 2000 miles blown who had been replaced already, i will post pic soon.

 

[DaleNixon]

I hear so many conflicting reports about our cars. Some say the engine is solid and the transmission is built like a tank; some say the car is a smoking pile of crap.

Makes me wonder if I'm putting my car in danger with my HKS SRI and Forge BPV. Oh well... you only live once (ugh) I'll just stay away from the big power mods.

Doesn't insurance sometimes cover stuff like this if the warranty doesn't?

 

[DaleNixon]

Dudes calm down! He was steamed about his engine blowing and he let his emotions get involved with his posting. Even he agrees this is the case. Let's all stop being dicks to each other in this thread! (hippy)

 

[shane02pro5]

Just trade in all your ms3's for protege's and "KNOW" that you have to replace or rebuild everything from the ground up!

 

[blackmica08]

im not cursing at everyone here you are wrong, im cursing at you.

 

[blackmica08]

Dudes calm down! He was steamed about his engine blowing and he let his emotions get involved with his posting. Even he agrees this is the case. Let's all stop being dicks to each other in this thread! (hippy)

dude im calm down is just this people that jump in the thread and start talking crap. to the mod on the site no more cursing.

 

[Shiroi_ms3]

I just saw this post, sorry bout your engine blowing up, that must suck.
I had my slave cylinder break like 2 weeks ago and I was mad ******* pissed.

I'm glad you will keep the car, but if my engine blew I would have the same serious thoughts about changing vehicles.

 

[Dparks7]

this guy keeps saying that the engine is bad...then why has it been on the 10 best engines list for the last few years, for power, relaibility and quality?

 

[jbiird317]

this guy keeps saying that the engine is bad...then why has it been on the 10 best engines list for the last few years, for power, relaibility and quality?

even the best engines can be beaten to death. If you make a habit of driving a car hard and treating it badly, even a stock motor can have problems; and the more power coming out of it, the quicker the downfall can be.

 

[daonly1around]

if i remember right most people that are blowing stock motors are people going WOT at like 60MPH or less in six gear, i forgot the exact terminology that was being used, but something along the lines that the car was building boost but nowhere for it to go.... any way, glad the dealer is covering it

 

[gtlaw]

i wont mind let anyone here who is in need to give them the dealer i went to but i think is unwise to post it online, something like that happens and everybody jumps on you, i just came from the dealer and i saw two speed3 engines with less than 2000 miles blown who had been replaced already, i will post pic soon.

were those cars stock?

 

[blackmica08]

were those cars stock?

yes sir , bone stock

 

[Reyan]

sometimes you get a bad apple. who here have ever seen a dealership without a service dept. every car out there breaks at some point. Dude I am happy you are getting your engine covered under warranty, let's face it most of us here has done some form of alteration (mods) to our cars and at any given time some one of us can be in this situation.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

this guy keeps saying that the engine is bad...then why has it been on the 10 best engines list for the last few years, for power, relaibility and quality?

car and driver doesn't drive the cars the same way people who mod them do, nor do they keep a test car much longer than six months. the RENESIS rotary was engine of the year and a 10best engine too, and look how many of those mazda has had to replace.

for the most part, if the car is left stock and driven sanely, people will be fine. i have seen stock or close to stock DISI engines in the 3 and 6 pop. its been posted on here and other forums. is it an epidemic? no. my buddy with an N/A 3 and no mods blew his engine at 11,000 miles. s*** happens, there are indeed bad apples in every bunch. this is why we have warranties. if a dealer wants to warranty a fully modded car, then thats a big win for the consumer. i do not think that is nor should be the norm.

i do not think the engine is as robust when it comes to mods as what an Evo, SRT or STi has under the hood. sorry. flame me for saying that, evidence over time bears that out however.

+1

thats y theres aftermarket internals, for your aftermarket turbos ... duh haha

all this bashing on the ms3 ... i don't visit the other forums but how about the cx-7 and ms6? It has the same motor, does it have the same bashing and problems. If it doesn't , then that just dumb this bash this car and call it a pos.

ms6s have blown motors, moreso than speed3s. they have been on the road longer than ms3s however, so that has to be taken into account. and as i said, its not an epidemic of bum engines. the grand scheme of things, many of the people who own these cars don't mod them, don't come on forums or when they do either they don't talk about the ups and downs. so considering all that, no one should be thinking that despite valid misgivings that the engines are going to silly putty themselves in every car.

after reviewing all the mods people do to these cars and blow the motor, I think the best turbo upgrade is the rebuilt turbo from protoge garage here's why, 1. it looks O.E.M. when you go to the dealer 2. you spool up faster and run stock boost 3. bigger turbos spool up late, so if you wanna run someone you gotta wait and do a roll from 80mph lol, what if you went to the track? you'll probably hit boost at the finish line, and your spending like a 1000.00 more.

you hit the nail on the head. no dealer will be able to tell our turbo from a stocker by looking at it.

 

[MSPYOUNGERS38]

i got my msp covered under warrnty after all the after market on it and the wrist pin came out after the put it back together and went through the block just after they replaced it.

 

[oaklandopen]

im still having trouble understanding this wrist pin "clip". as far as i know wrist pins are installed by way of heating up components to expansion, sliding the wrist pin in, then as the components cool the pin is in there for good. the pin slides freely against the piston head, while it's immobile on the rod. and since the rod with cap are basically not sliding around the rod journal, the wrist pin isn't (or shouldn't) be going back and forth within the piston head.

secondly, i agree with all the ones stating the need for internal work (forged components and whatnot). sometimes to do things the right way the first time is to rip everything apart and beef it up, not just pistons either. bearings, head bolts, whatever. all this if you want to try and keep your car for longer than 1 startup cuz it's getting 400 hp to the wheels.