Canada may lose 4,813 Vehicles

[Donas64]

My condolences to his friends and family. Just goes to show you how fragile life is.

 

[Rainman]

This sucks for sure. The whole thing pales in comparison to this tragic loss. I'm not sure how I feel about driving one of the MS3s from that ship either.

R

 

[Metal MP5]

any news?

 

[Kansei]

Last I read a couple days ago, the ship is stable at like 58 degrees and they are pumping water from it. Also it has been reporting that the incident was caused by improper ballasting.

 

[Metal MP5]

yep, i read about the ballasting. what about the cars? in one of the article they said that cargo #1 and 9 or something were ok ... just wondering how many cars are totalled n stuff =\

 

[Kansei]

^^ yeah I had read that too, but then somewhere else I heard that Deck 9 had water in it. Last I read the straps were holding up though.

 

[jandree22]

latest update according to Google news --> http://www.alaskareport.com/coastguard10132.htm

 

[Metal MP5]

http://www.dec.state.ak.us/spar/perp/response/sum_fy07/060728201/060728201_index.htm

 

[Falango]

Last I heard was it was being towed down to Vancouver, looks like it's almost back upright. Those guys out there that pull off amazing jobs like this, deserve a heck of alot. They may have just saved $100 million worth of cars!

 

[AKYellow]

I just over heard in my office, which is monitoring the progress of the uprighting, that it is moored up at Dutch Harbor until it is completely upright then they will tow it to Seattle, Wa. We had some Lawyers come in with the owners of the Cougar Ace yesterday and they had a tow plan for the vessel to be brought to Seattle, Wa.

 

[NVP5White]

The latest incident report indicated that all decks had damaged cars, that a large amount of transmission fluid and other fluids had leaked from the cars, and that all cars would need to be re-secured.

That does not sound like good news to me. I know break fluid can mess-up paint and I think trans fluid can, too. Without knowing exactly what parts of what cars were effected by misc engine fluids, I don't think Mazda could sell these cars as new.

 

[briand805]

I would imagine all the cars would be damaged. After all the ship had rolled completely on its side.

 

[NVP5White]

I would imagine all the cars would be damaged. After all the ship had rolled completely on its side.

I have heard reports from hear and other palces that the straps that hold the cars have held. There are appearently between 4 and 6 teathers for each car, which can probably hold that car if the ship was upside down.

Of course, since they do not describe the type of damage it is hard to tell what caused it.

 

[MyProFive]

The cars are well secured because the compliance in thier suspension acts as a pendulum and is VERY bad for the ships stability.

I cannot believe the tranny fluid comment because they are sealed however possibly oil through the cap and dipstick...and gas!

 

[Metal MP5]

im just trying to imagine how much time it takes to put all those cars on the ship and to take them out ........ so many cars ...

 

[jandree22]

I just keep thinking that it should've happened near some S. Pacific island or Hawaii. Just roll down the windows and push 'em overboard. Mz3/CX7 reef... now that would be an amazing dive! Too bad it would never happen anyways because as mentioned, all the nasty fluids that would first have to be drained.

 

[NVP5White]

The cars are well secured because the compliance in thier suspension acts as a pendulum and is VERY bad for the ships stability.

I cannot believe the tranny fluid comment because they are sealed however possibly oil through the cap and dipstick...and gas!

Yes, leak through the dipstick. Even at a very slow rate (1 drop a minute) it would take relatively littel time for there to be quite a mess. Plus aren't there vent holes and other openings that we don't normally think about because we don't drive rotated 70 degrees to one side.

ANyway, without being able to certify that a car is *undamaged* not just damaged, but repairable, Mazda will probably not sell these as new. There is just too much liability...

 

[kamon8404]

Being in the navy and all that doesn't make the ship life too appealing. I hope none of the MS3's were damaged and such.

 

[MyProFive]

Being in the navy and all that doesn't make the ship life too appealing. I hope none of the MS3's were damaged and such.

I am a naval architect and I work on NAVY ships. Don't worry about tipping over, or sinking. Just keep away from people trying to drive a small boat full of C4 to ya!

Seriously NAVY ships are tough, just google USS radford collision, or USS cole, or USS stark. The damage that any one of these ships took would've put the Cougar Ace in the briney deep in less time than it takes to push the GMDSS button.

BTW the cougar ace was turned over to it's owners recently with a slight list to contain a small amount of water.

 

[Focus]

Looks like she's upright now:

http://www.cargolaw.com/2006nightmare_cougar-ace2.html