Can we keep Mazdaspeed related videos here? (reasoning within)
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we can't just keep adding sections, soon there will be some many that noone will ever look at all of them and many questions will go unanswered. if you want your question answered by the entire board on say "wheels for you msp" sure, you can go and post it in the msp section and have all the msp ppl answer your question, or you can post it in the 'right' forum and have the protege5 people, msp people, sedan people and other people answer you question
which do you think will give you better exposure and a better responce?
which do you think will give you better exposure and a better responce?
Well the SRT forums are divided for only one car and thats the SRT/4. THe other SRT models have no sub sections.
Flat 6 is diveided into different single sections by car model. These car modles are ALOT different then the sub classes of protege. However, even though there are different sections for each car model, there are no sub sections with in them and things like racing and multimedia(photo / Video) are not segregated by car type.
The Evo forums are devided a bit more into subsection by car modle but I think we can all agree that a Lancer EVO is radicly different from an OZ. Where the hell the rallyart falls in I have no Idea. Again this section has the same type of general areas the include all models like like the photoshop section and racing section. Basicly the tech stuff is the only parts divided and with the imense differences between and EVO and ES it should be. The MSP is not very different at all form the other proteges, atleast not enough to start building subsection around it.
Lastly we come to the Mits forum that are again seperated by totaly different models. And there is no subsection within those models. Again a 3000GT is a radicly different car then eclispe yet even they don't subsection the model specific areas.
So basicly per your examples you have proved your own argument false. These forums are not section the way you are describing this forum shoudl be. When it comes down to it the MSP is nothing special and is just another protege. If anything here we should have subsections for the Proteges and another set for the MAzda 3 but NEVER subsection for each protege that carries a different badge. Damn near no website organizes that way and only one example you gave even comes close.
Flat 6 is diveided into different single sections by car model. These car modles are ALOT different then the sub classes of protege. However, even though there are different sections for each car model, there are no sub sections with in them and things like racing and multimedia(photo / Video) are not segregated by car type.
The Evo forums are devided a bit more into subsection by car modle but I think we can all agree that a Lancer EVO is radicly different from an OZ. Where the hell the rallyart falls in I have no Idea. Again this section has the same type of general areas the include all models like like the photoshop section and racing section. Basicly the tech stuff is the only parts divided and with the imense differences between and EVO and ES it should be. The MSP is not very different at all form the other proteges, atleast not enough to start building subsection around it.
Lastly we come to the Mits forum that are again seperated by totaly different models. And there is no subsection within those models. Again a 3000GT is a radicly different car then eclispe yet even they don't subsection the model specific areas.
So basicly per your examples you have proved your own argument false. These forums are not section the way you are describing this forum shoudl be. When it comes down to it the MSP is nothing special and is just another protege. If anything here we should have subsections for the Proteges and another set for the MAzda 3 but NEVER subsection for each protege that carries a different badge. Damn near no website organizes that way and only one example you gave even comes close.
"Well the SRT forums are divided for only one car and thats the SRT/4. THe other SRT models have no sub sections."
Wrong, the SRT-10 is there also.
"When it comes down to it the MSP is nothing special and is just another protege."
This has nothig to do with anything. What's your point, yea so what it's a Protege with a turbo....and wheels and ...oh you get the idea.
"Damn near no website organizes that way and only one example you gave even comes close."
So this is the reason we should have it organized?
Wrong, the SRT-10 is there also.
"When it comes down to it the MSP is nothing special and is just another protege."
This has nothig to do with anything. What's your point, yea so what it's a Protege with a turbo....and wheels and ...oh you get the idea.
"Damn near no website organizes that way and only one example you gave even comes close."
So this is the reason we should have it organized?
the evolutionm.net site is the only one that I can see as remotely comparible... the differences between a boxster and a cayenne? a neon and a viper? a galant and an outlander? :wtf:
I realize that you think this more about organization but the fact of the matter is that there are apples and there are proteges. we all sit on basically the same chassis, the cars look relatively the same (minus pro5s) and the engines are virtually the same to modify. the pics and videos are just about all going to be the same... I like the way things are now, because I like the Protege lineup. I've got a Protege5 but love the idea of the MP3 and wouldn't mind having a MSP. this site, to me, is about the Protege lineup and the Protege community coming together to support one another :: group hug! :: and to garner support for the Protege aftermarket segments.
Each one of those sites listed seemed to lack my favorite feature of this site, the bar on the right of the main screen that allows us to find out what everyone else is talking about and get involved. I wouldn't have been in half the conversations that I've been in without that bar (perhaps some people would've preferred it that way
). Oh well, I think I've spoken my piece and will leave others to discuss this idea...
I realize that you think this more about organization but the fact of the matter is that there are apples and there are proteges. we all sit on basically the same chassis, the cars look relatively the same (minus pro5s) and the engines are virtually the same to modify. the pics and videos are just about all going to be the same... I like the way things are now, because I like the Protege lineup. I've got a Protege5 but love the idea of the MP3 and wouldn't mind having a MSP. this site, to me, is about the Protege lineup and the Protege community coming together to support one another :: group hug! :: and to garner support for the Protege aftermarket segments.
Each one of those sites listed seemed to lack my favorite feature of this site, the bar on the right of the main screen that allows us to find out what everyone else is talking about and get involved. I wouldn't have been in half the conversations that I've been in without that bar (perhaps some people would've preferred it that way
). Oh well, I think I've spoken my piece and will leave others to discuss this idea..."Wrong, the SRT-10 is there also."
I didn't say it wasn't theres I said it was not subsectioned. It has some very basic section ( only 4) like discussion and problems, but again a Viper is an entirely different car then a SRT/4. Also the Viper and SRT/10 are lumped into one set of catagories so this is hardly a break down to the level you are describing.
"This has nothig to do with anything. What's your point, yea so what it's a Protege with a turbo....and wheels and ...oh you get the idea."
Actualy it has everything to do with it. You are saying this site should be broken down like others with subsections. However you fail to realize these forums are in noway structured the way you are describing. They are sectioned by totaly different cars and then ususlay not even subsections. Also this is about the photo video section being seperate specificly and damn near all sites have a single photo/video section. My point is NO forum is organized the way you are describing. The MSP is not different enough form a ES, P5 and ESPECIALY form the MP3 to demand a different set of subsections.
"So this is the reason we should have it organized?"
No its a reason your agument is invalid. You said we shoudl be organized a certain way and then stated that your way is like most other sites are setup. The problem is that is a completely false statement.
Go back and read your own points of this debate, you have know condradicted yourself by saying now that the way these sites are arranged is irrelavent to the way we should be.
I didn't say it wasn't theres I said it was not subsectioned. It has some very basic section ( only 4) like discussion and problems, but again a Viper is an entirely different car then a SRT/4. Also the Viper and SRT/10 are lumped into one set of catagories so this is hardly a break down to the level you are describing.
"This has nothig to do with anything. What's your point, yea so what it's a Protege with a turbo....and wheels and ...oh you get the idea."
Actualy it has everything to do with it. You are saying this site should be broken down like others with subsections. However you fail to realize these forums are in noway structured the way you are describing. They are sectioned by totaly different cars and then ususlay not even subsections. Also this is about the photo video section being seperate specificly and damn near all sites have a single photo/video section. My point is NO forum is organized the way you are describing. The MSP is not different enough form a ES, P5 and ESPECIALY form the MP3 to demand a different set of subsections.
"So this is the reason we should have it organized?"
No its a reason your agument is invalid. You said we shoudl be organized a certain way and then stated that your way is like most other sites are setup. The problem is that is a completely false statement.
Go back and read your own points of this debate, you have know condradicted yourself by saying now that the way these sites are arranged is irrelavent to the way we should be.
I see what you guys are saying. The only thing is those sites don't have 90,000 posts inside ONE car area.
I'm done discussing this. I accept that I will miss tons of info not going to each and every section to look for MSP stuff. Oh well. Maybe I'll get an EVO soon.
I'm done discussing this. I accept that I will miss tons of info not going to each and every section to look for MSP stuff. Oh well. Maybe I'll get an EVO soon.
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SRT is a bad example because they only have 1 model
Flat6 & Mitsu aren't organized in any special way.
EVOm is great, but they only have 3 models & no generations, so you can't compare it to our site. I checked every forum I know of & the only one with anything more organized than us is http://supraforums.com & that's only because they list a tech section for each generation.
Flat6 & Mitsu aren't organized in any special way.
EVOm is great, but they only have 3 models & no generations, so you can't compare it to our site. I checked every forum I know of & the only one with anything more organized than us is http://supraforums.com & that's only because they list a tech section for each generation.
PhreakMP5 said:
Although I 100% agree with all your points this is the most fundamental.
Anyone that feels differently is mroe then welcome to start there own site.
Subsectioning only works to seperate the proteges and there owners as if they were totaly different models of cars, they are not. Most are 90% identical. No 3rd gen protege requires different sections. !st, gen 2nd gen and mazda 3 may in time as they grow but never the 3rd gen proteges.
II-Savy said:
20,000 posts are flame wars, 20,000 belong in different sections and 20,000 are clunk/hesitation/flash repeat posts.
If you are saying it needs subsection for improper posting then your argument can never win. We as mods and admins have discussed atlength how to cure these problem, not cater to them.
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II-Savy said:
:bs: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=4
Look at the stats for that specific forum: 109,330 threads & 1,201,928 posts
Better yet, try spending a day in there & see how it compares to this site. There are so many posts in the MkIV forum that you can create a new topic & it will be on page 3 in 15 minutes. Yet they still don't have subsections & they make it work.
Let me point out with a single post that I think and always have that Savy is right about subsection, however I feel they should be for totaly different cars, 1st,2nd,3rd and mazda 3.
Much the same way probetalk is divided. Basicly sections are divided for tech / troubleshooting talk and then everyone comes together for everything else.
However you will notice they are divided by generation and totaly different engine types.
Much the same way probetalk is divided. Basicly sections are divided for tech / troubleshooting talk and then everyone comes together for everything else.
However you will notice they are divided by generation and totaly different engine types.
"Correct me if I am wrong...but II-Savy just Owned himself."
either by myself at night in from of the TV or using the computer(jerkit) lol
Yea those were not examples of what I was saying....reguardless of the content of the posts I would just like to go to one place for everything. I
think having an MSP section of say mods would kick ass. If Jim put an autometer bla bla in his P5 that's great, but if Sue put an autometer bla bla in her MSP I'd rather read about that one.
either by myself at night in from of the TV or using the computer(jerkit) lol
Yea those were not examples of what I was saying....reguardless of the content of the posts I would just like to go to one place for everything. I
think having an MSP section of say mods would kick ass. If Jim put an autometer bla bla in his P5 that's great, but if Sue put an autometer bla bla in her MSP I'd rather read about that one.
Why does it matter?
It requires the same hook ups and functions the same. The only explaination is that you don't give a rats ass about any other protege or even the autometer. YOu only want MSP information no matter how identicaly it relates to another protege. In this rational your only chance to have it that way is to start your own site.
Also you do have a seperate mods list.
It requires the same hook ups and functions the same. The only explaination is that you don't give a rats ass about any other protege or even the autometer. YOu only want MSP information no matter how identicaly it relates to another protege. In this rational your only chance to have it that way is to start your own site.
Also you do have a seperate mods list.
