CAI comparison, MS vrs Injen

[whitey4311]

The filter on any of thes intakes arent bad my any means. Its just the difference that they are oiled vs the dryflow from MS. When new a machine oiled the fitlers perfectly so they arent over done but when it comes time to oil and clean it just be careful and maybe air compress the filter to blow off the extra oil onto a rag or something.

Dude you need to search there are a handful of girls on here that I hope dont read that BS from you, lol. They know more then you would like to think and that is pretty freaking sweet.

As I said in the end make your choice based on warranty issues not quality because I think they all accoplish the same thing in the end. Like all Mazda parts you are paying for the name and for the fact it maintains the car as a factory upgrade and wont void anything. But dont get me wrong like most will agree its a very well made kit and the quality is there for the price.

 

[MX6toMS3]

Dude you need to search there are a handful of girls on here that I hope dont read that BS from you, lol. They know more then you would like to think and that is pretty freaking sweet.

(kiss)

Girls hear everything. It's a curse. And the girl in me would just like to thank howstuffworks.com for helping me understand how my new car works (I've had V6's my whole life).

Oh, and myself I will go with the MS CAI, since the difference is very subjective and I know for a fact that I can hear my turbo spooling better once I get it.

"It goes, 'whoo-whoo!'"

 

[Kosh]

Can we all please keep this thread on topic and stop insulting people? If you want to b**** and name call do it in PM or better yet don't do it at all.

 

[Mocoso]

Can we all please keep this thread on topic and stop insulting people? If you want to b**** and name call do it in PM or better yet don't do it at all.

How about if we just stop posting and let this thread die... obviously we cant provide the help he is looking for

 

[controlo]

the reason we can't provide the help he is looking for is because whitey posts in every thread that the mazdaspeed intake is a factory upgrade and will keep the warranty. it says right on the box "for offroad use only" an injen with a dryflow will be the same thing as a mazdaspeed intake. you will keep your warranty with any intake. the only thing they can void with the injen is your MAF. thats it. if you have a dryflow they can't void anything unless you hydrolock, which you wont.

 

[camrycev6]

the reason we can't provide the help he is looking for is because whitey posts in every thread that the mazdaspeed intake is a factory upgrade and will keep the warranty. it says right on the box "for offroad use only" an injen with a dryflow will be the same thing as a mazdaspeed intake. you will keep your warranty with any intake. the only thing they can void with the injen is your MAF. thats it. if you have a dryflow they can't void anything unless you hydrolock, which you wont.

I still have my Mazdaspeed box, and unless it was carefully painted over, mine says nothing of the sort.

The bigger problem here, is that people keep confusing the issue of how the warranties work. Controlo, you too, are confused it would seem, so allow me to help. First, the issue Whitey has made previous (and correct me if I am wrong Whitey) has nothing to do with the warranty of the part itself. No one really cares about the 1 year warranty on the MS CAI or whatever it is on the Injen. The real issue revolves around the question is it worth the extra dollars for the part and the professional (aka Mazda) installation to ensure that there is no danger of violating the warranty on the engine due to unapproved parts and / or installation of said parts. Now that said, if you install aftermarket parts yourself you do not automatically void your warranty. However, and here is the catch, if something does go wrong that your dealer determines could be caused by the aftermarket parts or the non-professional installation, they can refuse to warranty said parts. I have lived through this personally as have a few of my friends. They either eat the costs of the repairs themselves, or remove the aftermods, and put the OEM stuff back on and take it to the dealer to have it fixed. Why? Because they know the dealer isn't going to honor the warranty.

So you have to ask yourself a question: Is the cost difference in adding a non-Mazda part and / or installing it myself worth the potential cost I would pay to repair the damage? If you feel comfortable the part won't cause any issues and you can install it yourself professionally (or have someone else do it) go ahead...but don't think for you 2 seconds you are not assuming a risk that a person who had a MS CAI put on by Mazda is NOT assuming. Is that worth 150 bucks to me? Your damn right it is.

So let's stop spreading the confusion / lies, shall we? If you need more info:

Magnuson Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm

 

[ByrdMan23]

sorry camry... i didnt wanna read all that but i scimmed... i think you have it right though... i called my service manager and he said that it doesnt matter what brand it is if they can prove a major problem was because of your intake they do not have to fix it(void)... but he did say taht he would go with mazda just because it is made by mazda and they made it to work best with our cars..but as far as the warranty goes... it doesnt matter what intake you have, to be honest i think im just going to go with injen becuase they have a great reputation for intakes.. im sure mazdas is just as good or maybe even better... but as someone said above when it comes down to it... they all do the same thing and theres reeally not that big of a difference in performance gains..
just to clear things up i got alot of useful info even from people i was joking with(yes i said joking not fighting or bitching) even you whitey u a** hole!! jk
thanks for everyones opinions and by all means keep adding info cuz i will once i get my intake


does anyone know anyone with injen intake and hks BOV!?!?!?! i just wanna see how they like it..

 

[controlo]

i'm not confused about the warranty. i don't care about the warranty for the intake itself. i don't think people understand that the dealership has to PROVE that the intake damaged the part trying to be covered. the only thing a cold air intake can possible do is contaminate the MAF or cause hydrolock (which the mazdaspeed can as well.), nothing else. Do you people really think that if you have a Mazdaspeed CAI installed by Mazda, and you suck water up into your motor, that it's covered? the only way it would be covered is if the dealership doesn't understand warranty laws and puts it in writing that any damages from the CAI are covered. is it worth the risk to have the MAF fail? yes. the chances are very slim and the only thing you would have to do is put on a dryflow filter on OR put the stock box back on. what risk are you suggesting i would assume by installing an injen CAI with an oiled filter? if it is anything other than contaminating the MAF, i'm afraid you are confused. true, you could possibly run rich, but injen wouldn't sell a product that puts the integrity of your motor in danger. besides that, i have the injen and i've been to the dealership and the service manager checked the A/F ratio and the MAF sensor. all is good. If you go to a dealership with an injen CAI and they tell you that the aftermarket part bent your valves, punch him in the forehead. and as far as the "for offroad use only" not sure if all of the boxes say that but the service manager specifically showed me one. that may just be referring to CARB status.

 

[whitey4311]

Like most of the intakes they are Carb legal and are not off road use. They put that on parts that arent approved for emissions or other reasons that would make your car out of spec. Its printed on head lights that are too bright as well since they arent with in spec.

Any way Camrycev6 hit it on the head and this all I am trying to say. On that note I did my own installation since I am confident that I can take my time in doing things and do it right.

Buy what you want but the extra few bucks is worth not challenging any Act or Law to make the dealer prove any part caused a failure. You may have a leg to stand on but $90 says its not worth your time or energy.

 

[controlo]

if its worth a 5% chance that you'll have to put your stock airbox back on and clean your MAF, then do it. if you feel like putting your stock airbox back on is worth more than $100, don't.

 

[controlo]

if you have a dryflow filter, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

 

[ByrdMan23]

if you have a dryflow filter, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

wjitey... if u read my last post... i called MY service manager... he said the brand DOESN't matter... a aftermarket intake is a aftermarket intake... jsut becuase its made by mazdaspeed does not mean if something happens its automatically covered... so the extra 90 bucka has nothing to do with avoiding laws or acts it has to do with a brand name...

so maybe yalls service manager is different... but as far as mine goes a intake is a intake...so is it worth it to pay the extra 100... hell no... i dont want to jynx myslef but the chances of something happening are small.. and if something does happen with intakes theres normally a easy fix... so for me the 100 bucks is going towards a blow off valve...

 

[whitey4311]

Did you get that in writting?

By default any MS part is a facotry upgrade and the part will not void any warranty what so ever unless you install it improperly and casue a failure.

Some dealers are cool but I would have that in writting and I am going to bet you he wont do that.

No matter what you buy you will be happy with the performance increase that is for sure. I just spent the extra $90 to not waste time or energy in challenging any law or making the dealer prove something did or did not cause failure.

Good luck.

 

[clos561]

Did you get that in writting?

By default any MS part is a facotry upgrade and the part will not void any warranty what so ever unless you install it improperly and casue a failure.

Some dealers are cool but I would have that in writting and I am going to bet you he wont do that.

No matter what you buy you will be happy with the performance increase that is for sure. I just spent the extra $90 to not waste time or energy in challenging any law or making the dealer prove something did or did not cause failure.

Good luck.

same, and i m going to have my dealer install my exhaust probably for the same reason(when i get it)

 

[Speed3girl]

I will chime in here.

Ok I have had AEM, Injen, and now MS on my vehicles. I don't know what the deal is with dealers being tough on people for their mods. Now from my experience Honda is the best so far when it comes to mods. On our S2000 we had CAI, CBE, and test pipe....and no guff from them. Now if you have an Injen CAI on our Speed I don't see why a dealer should fuss over it. Now if the CAI causes a problem with your vehicle due to installation error then ok.

 

[ByrdMan23]

i guess in my case thats good then because now if anything happens i can bring up the fact of what yall jsut said and tell him i didnt pay the extra 90 bucks becuase he told me it didnt matter... and my dad is pretty good frinds with the owner of my mazda sotre neways.... so ill be fine

 

[Speed3girl]

i guess in my case thats good then because now if anything happens i can bring up the fact of what yall jsut said and tell him i didnt pay the extra 90 bucks becuase he told me it didnt matter... and my dad is pretty good frinds with the owner of my mazda sotre neways.... so ill be fine

Yeah don't worry. In all the years of owning cars and having intakes there is really nothing to worry about.

 

[ByrdMan23]

Yeah don't worry. In all the years of owning cars and having intakes there is really nothing to worry about.

yea... my dad keeps telling me... QUIT WORRYING ABOUT IT!!!..


ok.. i have a problem, i bought this one of turbo tech racing dot com.. it appears to have the same item number as the one on like the rpmstore or other websites.. for some reason(im guessing they just got good prices) turbo tech only asked 219.99 for injen intake yet rpm and many other places ask like 250.. am i just lucky or are they different... i messaged them and they said it was for 07 mazdaspeed 3 turbo charged.. but dam they look different...i guess theres one thing for sure... ill find out when it gets here if it fits ahhaha

 

[chaos4]

Did you get that in writting?

By default any MS part is a facotry upgrade and the part will not void any warranty what so ever unless you install it improperly and casue a failure.

Some dealers are cool but I would have that in writting and I am going to bet you he wont do that.

No matter what you buy you will be happy with the performance increase that is for sure. I just spent the extra $90 to not waste time or energy in challenging any law or making the dealer prove something did or did not cause failure.

Good luck.

Horse crap!! MS parts are NOT a factory upgrade. It is an aftermarket part, clear and simple.(attn)

Wet (oiled) filters are not recommended by Mazda as they tend to dirty the MAF with the oil.

 

[clos561]

Horse crap!! MS parts are NOT a factory upgrade. It is an aftermarket part, clear and simple.(attn)

Wet (oiled) filters are not recommended by Mazda as they tend to dirty the MAF with the oil.

not factory but eeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh they are "MAZDASPEED" accessories and they are warrantied from the dealer with correct install or dealer install compared to other AFTERMARKET cai's....of course they wont give u s*** about a after market intake untill something goes wrong with sensors or u hydrolock ur motor...then u get the "its not MAZDA APPROVED" and ur ******...