Anyone Purchasing Their Lease??

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Has anybody out there optioned their buyout and purchased their off-lease MS6????

If so, has anyone been able to negotiate? I know bargaining is an expectation coming out of a lease, but Mazda does not seem to want to negotiate on the price.

Anybody have any input???

Thanks!!!

M
 
bump> I'm going to be doing the same thing this up-coming December, it would be helpful to know.
 
Mazda USA is forcing me to go back to the dealer I leased the car from and coordinate with them the purchase of my lease. MazUSA will not negotiate over the phone - I have tried a couple of different times. So I did visit my purchasing dealer. Indicated I am interested in purchasing my car at a reduced amount (vs. my lease buyout). They did not even blink. They gave me some song and dance about having a certain person review the lease/buyout and they would get back to me.

I have not heard back from them.

I think they want the car back so they can sit it on their lot. Which ABSOLUTELY defies logic at this time in our economy. Three months ago I wanted to get out of my lease early for another (non-Mazda) vehicle. The same dealership family would not even give me my BUYOUT on a trade - saying that the car is not trading for crap at the auction. They encouraged me to stay in my lease until the end, then just give it back. I am happy I did not trade out - simply because of gas prices and what I was looking at moving into.

Back to my statement about taking back an off-lease two year old car. These cars did not sell for s*** when they were new - and now they want them all back? Why, because they think they are limited edition?????? If I were a stealership right now, I doubt I would want any more pre-owned cars coming onto my lots.

I guess I do not get it - and I guess that is why I am not in the auto sales industry.

Oh Well. Country First. Save your money everybody - we are probably going to need it.

M
 
Why would Mazda discount the residual you would have to pay for the buyout? It makes NO BUSINESS SENSE whatsoever. They already have your signature saying you agree to that residual value.
 
I have been shopping around a little thinking about getting out of the Speed and into a new 6 or a Maxima. Of the four dealerships I went to, 3 of them were drooling over my trade. 2 of the salesmen were very open about about stating that they have gotten very high prices on used Speed6s recently. When I told them I had purchased a 100K warranty for my car when I bought it, they were ready to deal right now.

It seems that the Speed6 is doing much better on the used car market than it ever did in the new car market. I wouldnt just give up on trying to negotiate a deal though. I suspect that with new car sales tanking in September, that inventory is piling up. They may not want any additional cars.
 
Mazda just has strict policys on buying out your lease. Also note, the dealerships will charge up to 1k for doing the financing. I am going through this exact same thing but with the wifes CX7. I have bought 3 cars in 4 years from this dealership and am now threatening them to reduce the $500 charge for financing the buyout or I will go buy a new Mazda5 or 6 at another dealership. They are being hesitant. Auctions/brokers buy these off the credit companys for 4k less than the buy out. Not being able to negotiate it is bull. However, look at lease options right now, GM doenst lease any more, Ford is charging a premium and Chrysler JUST now found a bank that started lease options for them. It is bad... A lot of this has to do with the economy and the residual. I will say though, even after TTL and the $500 I am getting the CX7 almost 2k below BB. Not bad for a flawless vehicle with 20k miles on it.
 
You are correct on one account - they do have my signature agreeing to a number - however, that signature is not an agreement of sale. With that signature on the leasing contract I am not guarenteeing the purchase of the vehicle at the end of my lease - just a monthly obligation and the cost to purchase at the end of the lease term.

Now, if I am an interested party who is willing to purchase the vehicle as-is, why wouldn't the dealership want to at least try to negotiate a sale with me? My car passed its end-of-lease inspections; however it will still need some minor improvements. Probably could use some tires. Plus, by selling it to me, the dealership would not have any additional inventory. Money tied up on a car sitting on a lot = less money earning interest sitting in the bank.

Perhaps my buyout is that low - 2006 MS6 GT ---> buyout = $18,100.

Opinions?

M
 
What does an 06 MS6 BB for in that condition? My car stickered at 30k and my buyout is 18100, that is before my last payment of 299 as well. So I will be even lower, more like 17700.
 
Mazda USA is forcing me to go back to the dealer I leased the car from and coordinate with them the purchase of my lease. MazUSA will not negotiate over the phone - I have tried a couple of different times. So I did visit my purchasing dealer. Indicated I am interested in purchasing my car at a reduced amount (vs. my lease buyout). They did not even blink. They gave me some song and dance about having a certain person review the lease/buyout and they would get back to me.

I have not heard back from them.

I think they want the car back so they can sit it on their lot. Which ABSOLUTELY defies logic at this time in our economy. Three months ago I wanted to get out of my lease early for another (non-Mazda) vehicle. The same dealership family would not even give me my BUYOUT on a trade - saying that the car is not trading for crap at the auction. They encouraged me to stay in my lease until the end, then just give it back. I am happy I did not trade out - simply because of gas prices and what I was looking at moving into.

Back to my statement about taking back an off-lease two year old car. These cars did not sell for s*** when they were new - and now they want them all back? Why, because they think they are limited edition?????? If I were a stealership right now, I doubt I would want any more pre-owned cars coming onto my lots.

I guess I do not get it - and I guess that is why I am not in the auto sales industry.

Oh Well. Country First. Save your money everybody - we are probably going to need it.

M


Before everyone open their mouth about the dealership: please understand how the process works. If you finance a vehicle you agree to borrow the bank money to purchase the vehicle, you inturn will have to pay the bank X amount for X amount of time after that period you own the vehicle, now if you lease the vehicle you only pay for a portion of the vehicle based on the residual value, so if the vehicle was 20,000 and the residual value was 60% then after the time period specified in the lease you would have paid the bank for 40% of the vehicle. Basically your renting the car from the bank. That's why on a lease you must have 100/300/50 insurance.

Remember from the time you drive off the lot your business with the dealership is done in regards to the sales and finance part of the business, you now owe the bank (not the dealership), you will make all your payments to the BANK not the dealership.

Now you owe the bank, your lease is up and you go to the dealership and say I want to purchase my lease, the sales guy will now call the bank and get a lease purchase quote from the bank, which is non negotiable because you already agree from the day you leased the vehicle to purchase the vehicle for that amount at the end of the lease if you choose to do so, the only thing the dealership will do is add the tax,tag and fees and based on your credit they will give you the payment including the interest rate.

The reason the buyout option is high is because you got a really low monthly payment on the lease,the higher the residual the lower the payment (good lease), the lower the residual the higher the payment (bad lease). In most case it's better not to purchase the lease. Even the dealerships do not buy the lease vehicle from the bank because the banks want too much for the cars. Even at the dealership the bank owns the inventory, they borrow the money from the bank at a special rate to purchase the inventory, it's call a floor plan.

I am sick of people who blaspheme dealerships when they do not understand how things work and what they signed, and thank god some people are not working in the dealership.
 
Well thanks for clearing that up for us. I think the point of frustration is, the dealership does not keep the car, I know that. The bank sends their Broker to come get it and sell it off or auction it for FAR less than my buyout. Why not save the time and $$ and sell it to me for less.
Since you seem to know a lot about this, how can I track the car then after turn in adn buy it off the broker for less?
 
What does an 06 MS6 BB for in that condition? My car stickered at 30k and my buyout is 18100, that is before my last payment of 299 as well. So I will be even lower, more like 17700.


My car, my area - good condition
Trade-In 18,055.
Private 20,725
Retail 24,700 (excellent condition)

In a 20 mile radius, I found 5 - Sports and GTs - prices listed average about 22,000.

For as limited edition as they were, I am finding alot sitting on pre-owned lots. All around the same mileage.

M
 
I am sick of people who blaspheme dealerships when they do not understand how things work and what they signed, and thank god some people are not working in the dealership.

Yeah, my moral and ethical fiber is much too high for me to work in the auto industry!!!

(spin)

I understand how the leasing process works - I surely did the day I signed the lease agreement. My original question is whether anyone else is buying out and if so are they bargaining for a lower figure? My original frustration relates to the unwillingness of the bank (in this case Mazda American Credit, henceforth, MAC) to negotiate on a lower buyout figure. MAC must be getting darn good money for these cars on the auction circuit. Or the original retail markup was HUGE. MAC however, will not deal over the phone. I must go though the dealer. Who is completely uninterested in me if I am not helping to move inventory off of their lot.


M
 
You are correct on one account - they do have my signature agreeing to a number - however, that signature is not an agreement of sale. With that signature on the leasing contract I am not guarenteeing the purchase of the vehicle at the end of my lease - just a monthly obligation and the cost to purchase at the end of the lease term.

I know that.
Now, if I am an interested party who is willing to purchase the vehicle as-is, why wouldn't the dealership want to at least try to negotiate a sale with me? My car passed its end-of-lease inspections; however it will still need some minor improvements. Probably could use some tires. Plus, by selling it to me, the dealership would not have any additional inventory. Money tied up on a car sitting on a lot = less money earning interest sitting in the bank.

Perhaps my buyout is that low - 2006 MS6 GT ---> buyout = $18,100.

Opinions?

M
Because the dealer can get a car just like yours a lot cheaper at the auction. Case in point, I bought my 2006 with 8k miles on it a little over a year ago for 18k. It makes no sense to buy your car for more than they can buy one on the wholesale market for.

Also, your dealer has no control over what is payed for that car. Whoever has the lease contract does.
 
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I sell vw's and whenever car's are returned to the dealership (the dealership is just a drop off location for the banks, not all dealerships accept lease returns) we go online to see what's the buyout figure on the car and believe me the car's are way too expensive for us to buy them from the bank is some cases, the bank never loose money on the car because in reality they already made the interest on the length of the lease. Dealerships take the heat, but it dosen't matter what we think, at the end of the day it's the bank money we are borrowing to make a purchase,that means the bank's can do whatever they want because it's their money.
 
Well thanks for clearing that up for us. I think the point of frustration is, the dealership does not keep the car, I know that. The bank sends their Broker to come get it and sell it off or auction it for FAR less than my buyout. Why not save the time and $$ and sell it to me for less.
Since you seem to know a lot about this, how can I track the car then after turn in adn buy it off the broker for less?


The bank sends it to their private auction, you must have a dealer license and cash to purchase at the auction.
 
I'm planning on buying mine out when it's due the end of Dec.

The dealer I leased it through is no longer in business, and I moved 500+ miles from there anyway, so I'm doing it via the local dealership here in Columbia, SC.

The buyout on my 2006 Speed6 is $13K ... and since it only has 23K miles on it, I think that's an OK price. (dance)
 
I'm planning on buying mine out when it's due the end of Dec.

The dealer I leased it through is no longer in business, and I moved 500+ miles from there anyway, so I'm doing it via the local dealership here in Columbia, SC.

The buyout on my 2006 Speed6 is $13K ... and since it only has 23K miles on it, I think that's an OK price. (dance)


---That sounds like a great buyout - how many month lease was that????


M
 
As of this month all of Ford and it's subsidaries will no longer be financed through Primus Financial Bank (which is the mother company) for Ford motor credit, mazda motor credit, etc. All of their leases and loans will be financed through Chase Bank. Just a little fyi.
 
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