markuszoom5
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I see less and less 2006-2010 mazda 5 on the road. There are not enough of the new model to begin with either. Seems the model is dying out and soon there will be no more for sale in us.
A dying breed...
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These are the monthly and yearly Canadian and U.S. sales figures for the Mazda 5
The sales are going down in the USA for sure, but in Canada is just so many times worse!
I have bolded the years when the new generation starting selling, as you can see, there was a spike in sales in the USA when the current generation was introduced, but in Canada the 5 has been in a constant decline since 2008.
IN THE USA
2005 4,761
2006 17,109
2007 13,717
2008 22,021
2009 18,488
2010 15,683
2011 19,155
2012 14,640
2013 13,884
2014 YTD 8,762
IN CANADA
2005 2,552
2006 8,694
2007 11,690
2008 11,944
2009 8,638
2010 7,532
2011 6,084
2012 5,267
2013 3,459
2014 YTD 2,529
SOURCE: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/mazda-5-sales-figures.html
The sales are going down in the USA for sure, but in Canada is just so many times worse!
I have bolded the years when the new generation starting selling, as you can see, there was a spike in sales in the USA when the current generation was introduced, but in Canada the 5 has been in a constant decline since 2008.
IN THE USA
2005 4,761
2006 17,109
2007 13,717
2008 22,021
2009 18,488
2010 15,683
2011 19,155
2012 14,640
2013 13,884
2014 YTD 8,762
IN CANADA
2005 2,552
2006 8,694
2007 11,690
2008 11,944
2009 8,638
2010 7,532
2011 6,084
2012 5,267
2013 3,459
2014 YTD 2,529
SOURCE: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/mazda-5-sales-figures.html
Problem is, people are going the SUV route. Seems stupid to choose an SUV over a sliding door for a family car/van, but what do I know. I can honestly say I have driven all from luxury SUVs to sedans and everything in between. I find the 5 one of the most practical family cars/van I have driven. The only downside to the 5 is the lack of power and tech gadgets, but I couldn't care less for the later.
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The interesting thing is that 5 sells steadily without ANY promotion or advertising budget. (when was the last time you saw a mz5 commercial on TV?) The advertising budget is focused on the SUVs, the high-volume mz3, and the image car MX-5 Miata. The 5 doesn't sell Toyota Sienna numbers, but it sells itself steadily each year without any help from Mazda.
Here are the annual sales volumes for the 5, Sienna, and Miata:
Mazda5
Sienna
Miata
(note: just because the Miata is the slowest seller of the Mazda family doesn't mean that they will cancel it, it is their "image" car, as I previously mentioned. Even though it doesn't sell big numbers, it is a very important car to Mazda.)
Here are the annual sales volumes for the 5, Sienna, and Miata:
Mazda5
Sienna
Miata
(note: just because the Miata is the slowest seller of the Mazda family doesn't mean that they will cancel it, it is their "image" car, as I previously mentioned. Even though it doesn't sell big numbers, it is a very important car to Mazda.)
Those numbers aren't done by model year (MY), they are simply actual units sold. So when you're looking at the December and January numbers, it's probably mostly the new MY, but it also includes the last of the remaining previous MY that dealers are clearing off their lots.
That is correct, the 2011 and 2012 do not refer to model year, but sales on the calendar year.
By the way, this useful "GOOD CAR BAD CAR" website is Canadian.
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I think that is a regional or urban vs. suburban issue.
I see more and more every day. I was in ours Saturday and saw 3 more in less than 2 miles. There are 2 different ones besides my own in my 1/2mi X 1/2mi neighborhood. I see one at least daily, usually 2 or more a day. But the difference is we are a USED car market, so cars generally filter down this way a few years after suckers who buy them new trade them in for the next "new" thing.
I beg to differ my fellow neighbor. I just took a week vacation about a month ago up in the Bay Area including inland in Sacramento and there are a lot of these little vans running around old and new, especially in The City (SF). I was very delighted to see so many. Unfortunately we live in SoCal in the land of BIG BLINGGED OUT GHETTO BEHEMOTHS.
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I was in Lake George NY a few weeks ago and saw nearly a half dozen of these on just the main street. Half of those had Ontario plates. Around here there are a couple driven by the elderly and a fleet of white ones used by some sort of agricultural or construction company.
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I am noticing 5's on the road now more than ever because I drive one, but they are still pretty rare. I'm glad I got one while I still could. It makes me very sad that Mazda is discontinuing this car. It's easily the most practical, useful and fun to drive car I've ever owned. I went into the Mazda dealer with the intention of buying a CX5 manual and to just look at the 5 for fun. After test driving, the 5 was so far ahead of the CX-5 it was no contest. The CX-5 is a great CUV on it's own, but the 5 is so much more fun to drive, the handling is far better, the 2.5 pulls much stronger than the poor overwhelmed 2.0, the interior is roomier and more comfortable too. It wasn't even close for me. If you could get the 2.5 Skyactiv with a manual transmission in the CX-5 I could drive one, but it still wouldn't be nearly as fun to drive. I really hope Mazda finds room for a 3 or 6 wagon/touring in the lineup with a manual transmission. I don't want an SUV Mazda! It would probably take at least $1500 in modifications for me to get a CX-5 to handle anything like the 5 does out of the box. *sigh*
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Is a 2.5 6MT Awd Sport CX5 going to be available?
Out here in the Rust Belt northeast, these cars get chewed up by our roads and use of road salt in the winter. The suspension not being a strong point, the awful roads punish it. All the usual 5 problems are made worse by our crap roads. And no matter how often you wash, rust is the enemy and anti-corrosion has never been a Mazda strength. Mine is starting to show spots of rust in the wheel arches and it's low miles (40K) for a 2008. And I care for my vehicles, the ones that show usual non-car person neglect are worse.
I also wonder how many have been sidelined by transmission problems. I know my fluid was brown at 25k miles, imagine what it would look like at 75k for someone who doesn't know about cars?
I like my 5 and have since day one. I like it even more so that it's paid for now! I'll continue to drive it until I'm totally sick of it or sick of fixing it. But our newly leased Honda Odyssey EXL does everything better as a people hauler except the Zoom Zoom aspect. And since the 2.3 has to work hard in the hills in which I live, the fuel mileage drop on the Honda isn't that severe.
I also wonder how many have been sidelined by transmission problems. I know my fluid was brown at 25k miles, imagine what it would look like at 75k for someone who doesn't know about cars?
I like my 5 and have since day one. I like it even more so that it's paid for now! I'll continue to drive it until I'm totally sick of it or sick of fixing it. But our newly leased Honda Odyssey EXL does everything better as a people hauler except the Zoom Zoom aspect. And since the 2.3 has to work hard in the hills in which I live, the fuel mileage drop on the Honda isn't that severe.
I do'nt know yet if the AWD 2.56mt is coming, but the FWD will be here.
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Interesting, where'd you hear that? I heard this about the 3, but I didn't know they would do it with the CX-5 as well. If so that's great, it's exactly what the CX-5 needs. I'm far from being power hungry, I'm pretty happy with slower cars, but the 2.0 just doesn't belong in the CX-5 IMO. It's not up to the task. I'm a guy who drove a 90 hp TDI VW and felt it had plenty of power, but the 2.0 CX-5 even with a manual is intolerably underpowered to me. They should just give it the 2.5 liter across the range.
If they had offered the 2.5 with a manual transmission on the CX-5 when I was buying a car a week ago, it would have made my decision much harder. I'm pretty confident I still would have gone with the 5 because of the handling and the interior being much more comfortable to me, but it would have been a tougher choice.
Now.. if they had the diesel 2.2 in the CX-5 WITH a manual. That would have clinched it for me, I think I might have gone with that over the 5, but that's the only thing that could have done it for me.
