A/C & PS are gone!

[Matthew]

what? big strong military man cant hadle alittle extra wheel effort? (stash)

**** that s*** lol

 

[changedman]

 

[Black Majik MSP]

A/C I can see taking out..but PS? Why? That doesn't even make any sense.

Well you have to take the PS out to even be able to get the AC compressor out & I didn't feel like putting it back in. It's added weight & if I kept the PS, I would have to get a new belt to run 2 pulleys instead of 3. Now I only have 1 belt.

 

[Black Majik MSP]

hahhaa


that really opens up the engine bay!

LOL yeah...I love it! Bryan said I should get a custom mani & turbo setup run over there.

 

[changedman]

yes! Anything to utilize it

 

[wicked]

weight saving?

not really,for every 100 pounds you drop you only lose.1 off your ET

doesn't sound to logical to me.I only see the point if you only use the car in the strip,and thats it.

and A/C only has a parisitic load when it's engadged.

while you're at it why don't you take 3 lugs off each wheel,ditch your exhaust,dash,seats,spoiler,and carpet!

by the don't turn the wheel with to much force the center off the shaft is made with plastic,and designed to break when in an accident.
to much force will break it.

 

[azian6er]

weight saving?

not really,for every 100 pounds you drop you only lose.01 off your ET

doesn't sound to logical to me.I only see the point if you only use the car in the strip,and thats it.

and A/C only has a parisitic load when it's engadged.

while you're at it why don't you take 3 lugs off each wheel,ditch your exhaust,dash,seats,spoiler,and carpet!

by the don't turn the wheel with to much force the center off the shaft is made with plastic,and designed to break when in an accident.
to much force will break it.

i think you mean for every 100 you lose .1 not .01 . By your def, if i lost 1000 lbs i would only shave .1 lol....

-B

 

[wicked]

i think you mean for every 100 you lose .1 not .01 . By your def, if i lost 1000 lbs i would only shave .1 lol....

-B

sorry about that,your right

 

[Super Matty P]

so much misinformation here...not you Brian..

for starters, I removed my entire AC system with nothing more than a 1/4" socket set and a 3/4" ford AC removal tool. The PS system absolutely CAN stay in the car. Removing it was VERY counterproductive unless you're only planning on drag racing professionally.

ANY pulley whether it's "engaged" or not is a drain on the system. It may not be that much of a drain but it is a drain.

There is a LOT of room in the engine bay with everything removed...hell even with the PS system in place there is a lot of room....

 

[MP3intheSTL]

Seems like a lot of work for nothing in my opinion.
Do you want to sell the A/C compressor.

 

[wicked]

so much misinformation here...not you Brian..

for starters, I removed my entire AC system with nothing more than a 1/4" socket set and a 3/4" ford AC removal tool. The PS system absolutely CAN stay in the car. Removing it was VERY counterproductive unless you're only planning on drag racing professionally.

ANY pulley whether it's "engaged" or not is a drain on the system. It may not be that much of a drain but it is a drain.

There is a LOT of room in the engine bay with everything removed...hell even with the PS system in place there is a lot of room....

AN IDELING PULLEY HAS NO DRAIN!

I proved this just yesterday on my own car,and Wyotech's dyno jet.
there was NO difference with the A/C pulley on or removed
but there was a 7 horse power difference with it engaged.

 

[Super Matty P]

i guess your Wyotech dyno is capable of defying laws of physics then. Kudo's to you.

You're still wrong.

Anytime you have a belt that is having to be spun it's going to require power to spin. If you had removed the belt entirely and done it again you'd see a difference. I have the AC and ps removed from my car right now and it revs like a motorcycle. It's much more sponsive than stock even when the ac is not on and the wheel is not being turned.

 

[chuyler1]

In theory yes, removing the belt should yeild more horse power. But in reality, the gain is so small even a dyno would have trouble picking it up. You claiming that you have better throttle response is about as believable as a ricer telling me his 5" exhaust tip adds 15HP. Its in your head.

If turning off the A/C adds 7HP, I'm sure removing the belt alltogether will give you another 2-3HP at most but I just can't justify the risks involved with having no PS for 2-3HP.

 

[BOOSTR]

To each his own, but you are nuts for taking out your a/c in Florida where its almost always summer like 75% of the year! I guess that you don't sweat and the windows won't fog when it rains.

 

[Black Majik MSP]

This reminds me of all the criticism I got for taking off my wing.

 

[Black Majik MSP]

Seems like a lot of work for nothing in my opinion.
Do you want to sell the A/C compressor.

If Linux doesn't want it, you've got dibs.

 

[wicked]

i guess your Wyotech dyno is capable of defying laws of physics then. Kudo's to you.

You're still wrong.

Anytime you have a belt that is having to be spun it's going to require power to spin. If you had removed the belt entirely and done it again you'd see a difference. I have the AC and ps removed from my car right now and it revs like a motorcycle. It's much more sponsive than stock even when the ac is not on and the wheel is not being turned.

your noticing the gain due to the PS belt being removed,not from the A/C

and by removing the A/C belt the horsepower would be so small a dyno couldn't pick it up.
the dyno was a dyno jet.

you're going on pure theory,not fact.

 

[Black Majik MSP]

your noticing the gain due to the PS belt being removed,not from the A/C

and by removing the A/C belt the horsepower would be so small a dyno couldn't pick it up.
the dyno was a dyno jet.

you're going on pure theory,not fact.

A/C & PS run off of the same belt...not sure from your post if you realize that.

 

[wicked]

A/C & PS run off of the same belt...not sure from your post if you realize that.

yeah I know,I was just trying to point out what component has what effect.

by the way,your car looks good without a wing.looks better.

 

[mazdaowner123]

So you saved 30 lbs? And you were making fun of me for thinking of a cf hood for it's weight savings (~30 lbs)? At least I'd still be able to turn in comfort

~brian