Yeah it's normal for power to drop. Kudos to Mazda for giving you guys more!
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But its emissions in the UK or no longer class leading. And the more powerful 7 speed Tiguan is just as economical.
The Tig using Def over there?
Does the Tiguan use urea injection?
Mazda's argument, back when the diesel was introduced, was that typical diesel engines with a high CR needed to delay fuel injection until some time after TDC on the power stroke in order to meet emissions. Ergo, they weren't really getting the advantage of the high CR anyway in terms of efficiency. IIRC, another motivation they had for using a lower CR was to be able to use an Aluminium cylinder block for weight reduction, and lighter internals for faster revving.
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The Tiguan is not getting good reliability reviews as a matter of interest.
GJ-Molestor
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The Chevy is using DEF. its acceleration times are absolutely appalling though. Apparently its fine around town but I imagine its just not enough on the highway.
Plus Chevy didnt add the 9 speed to the equinox because apparently it did not pose any efficiency benefits for the heavier car which makes no sense to me. The Mazda is a far better choice
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I never found any diesel numbers on it but what I have found is definitely not class-leading.
GJ-Molestor
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Chevrolet is just about the furthest thing you will find from class leading..
I love Honda's engine bay. That said Mazda's engine bay is not too shabby at all. Easy to work over, sideways, and underneath the engine. Engineered to be easy to work on. Only thing I would change is oil filter accessible from the top like BMW/VW does.
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They've gotten a lot better. I caught hell for saying this but I've given serious thought to buying a Malibu, still am actually.
The Equinox is an interesting vehicle and they're selling a ton of them. No way do I think their diesel would be better than a CX-5 diesel. Heck, for their base gas model you might get passed by someone on a bike, even the 2.0T doesn't seem very impressive, but the Equinox is an interesting car. It's good looking, has some different colors, the entertainment system is good (has AA/Car Play), etc. It's only two major weakness are speed and the headlights aren't the best (the Malibu's are worse apparently). It's got a high base price too but being a Chevy it'll go for at least $5K off MSRP.
Plus, there's this guy,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4eJa_dcGmM
He's got several of these. Funny as hell.
No its not nor the Audi Q5.
Both have problems with the DSG, not many models use a conventional box, which seems ok.
I'm interested in another CX-5 in a few years, especially now I know the low end torque has been increased, and the Auto is now rated higher than the manual for towing, up from 2000kg to 2100kg in the UK.
The top models kit is now improved with HUD and sunroof as standard, among other improvements. Only odd thing is my brochure say no radar cruise option with cream leather.
If I do buy another it will have the radar and the safety package options, but I really want AA.
Both have problems with the DSG, not many models use a conventional box, which seems ok.
I'm interested in another CX-5 in a few years, especially now I know the low end torque has been increased, and the Auto is now rated higher than the manual for towing, up from 2000kg to 2100kg in the UK.
The top models kit is now improved with HUD and sunroof as standard, among other improvements. Only odd thing is my brochure say no radar cruise option with cream leather.
If I do buy another it will have the radar and the safety package options, but I really want AA.
GJ-Molestor
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Well mazdas engine bay design is not the BEST to work on - that would probably be Toyota or Honda like you said, but theyre certainly nowhere near the worst to work on like some of the German cars. I strongly agree with you that it would be nice if they placed the filter at the top like they do with the euro cars.
Well, I can see why you got blasted for something like that. GM has only improved in recently years because of the huge cash infusion by the American government in 2009. GM wouldve been dead by now if it wasnt for their several corporate bailouts (along with dodge)
I had a rental Chevy Malibu which I was able to compare to my dads mazda 6 (both 2015 models) and there is simple no comparison. Where should I even start....
Styling - the Malibu is a hideous car in comparison to the shapely and expensive design of the Mazda. The proportions, styling language is just disgusting inside and out.
The Mazda rides better while tracking straight on the highway far more stable. Handling of the two cars side by side is just no comparison... the Chevy feels poorly tuned wherever you look. It takes corners laboured with zero feel and no confidence. It feels like nothing more then a poorly tuned appliance around corners and is just as impressive on the highway.
Moving onto the drivetrain... the engine revs in an unspiring passion, doesnt get good fuel economy, poor torque delivery, sound is nothing special, comes from an unreliable engine family, the transmission is poorly tuned to the engine and unresponsive, I could go on and on. The Malibu is never mentioned and right at the bottom of all its competition along with the equally uninspiring dodge.
Even if you dont want the Mazda (which is the best of the class IMO) there is the Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Camry, even the Kia and ford which are all better and more accomplished then a worthless Chevy. Im shocked you even bothered to mention such a car. Have you driven any of these cars I mention?
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Maybe someone can chime in but I thought Honda and Toyota oil filters were tough to reach/get to? The skyactiv engine filter and drain plugs are easily accessed via a compartment from under the car.
The LED headlights are easy to adjust with a flathead screwdriver and there's a hole with direct access to a toothed gear you move. You insert the flathead in between the teeth and turn the screwdriver clock or counterclockwise. Pretty cool.
Spark plugs were a breeze to change.
Transmission oil was a breeze to change and it also has its own nifty drain compartment door.
The Power Distribution block thingy is pretty slick when adding aftermarket amps. Don't have to use the car battery.
The firewall boot has an ingenious design to allow clean professional install of said amp power cable. There's a nipple that stick out of the boot. You cut that and a perfect circle give you access to the cabin firewall.
The stock airbox by definition gets its air from outside the engine bay. Ram air if you will is taken through the grill, up through the hood latch, and funneled into the air inlet. The bottom of the hood was stamped to help facilitate that funneling.
Again my two gripes are the oil filter not on top...oh and hood struts. Then again the class except for the tiguan doesn't have the struts.
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GJ-Molestor
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All the Japanese cars have essentially the same design oil filter and you access it in the same spot. Another reason why I prefer my BMWs filter design is because its not encased in metal so you can see how dirty the filter was when you change it.
Yea, all in all these are great cars. Im very happy with the drivetrain. The transmission is well geared and reosnsive, and the engine is just great. Loves to rev and makes great torque. In the 3200pound Mazda 6, it actually feels peppy. There is some lag starting off the line which would be largely absent if I got an ECU tune compatible with 91 octane fuel.
The stock airbox is an excellent design... its very similar to my friends Acura TL. Essentially the same design.
Well about the hood struts... at least you can quickly flap the hood to let heat escape from the engine bay LOL. Sounds crazy and unnecessary I know, but if Im doing a lot of stop and go traffic in hot weather (air intake temperatures spike dramatically when you are sitting in traffic) I like to remove the plastic engine cover and give the hood a good couple flaps to remove all the heat soak in the engine bay.
The airbox actually is REALLY well designed. The engine bay gets nowhere near as heatsoaked as the German cars which run super hot. The intake manifold and airbox dont get hot which means they are performing well.
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Hi GJ,
I find cars an interesting research project. When you look at things you find they all have strengths and weaknesses. For instance, I sat in a 2018 Camry and I simply didn't fit. I have not a doubt that it's a very good car but you gotta fit. Other cars might package their features differently so what you want is on the $35K version while another brand has them on the $25K version. With the Accord I couldn't fit in a EX-L but I could in a base model without moonroof but their feature package pretty much forces me into a EX-L. No idea what 2018 will look like. Altima's are quiet, comfortable, slow and frankly not very good cars.
If the diesel were here, or a 2018 6, with some changes, I'd probably forget the Malibu, but they aren't, so it's still on my kicking tires list.
I find cars an interesting research project. When you look at things you find they all have strengths and weaknesses. For instance, I sat in a 2018 Camry and I simply didn't fit. I have not a doubt that it's a very good car but you gotta fit. Other cars might package their features differently so what you want is on the $35K version while another brand has them on the $25K version. With the Accord I couldn't fit in a EX-L but I could in a base model without moonroof but their feature package pretty much forces me into a EX-L. No idea what 2018 will look like. Altima's are quiet, comfortable, slow and frankly not very good cars.
If the diesel were here, or a 2018 6, with some changes, I'd probably forget the Malibu, but they aren't, so it's still on my kicking tires list.
GJ-Molestor
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How tall are you? Im 63 and I havent had a problem fitting in any of these cars as long as the seat is lowered...
The Altima is a far better car then the Malibu and its actually not slow in the real world at all. Im just starting to think youve never driven a Malibu before if you think that the Altima isnt a good car. theres nothing wrong with it, its just not as good of a car as the Honda Accord of Mazda 6.
Seriously, I strongly suggest you test drive these cars. Grab a lower trim model that doesnt have electric seats, those got good adjustability and you will fit very comfortably.
Ours has an electric seat and while the seating position is not quite low enough for my liking, I fit perfectly fine in the car and it has a sunroof.
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I owned a 2008 Altima Hybrid for 5 years. I traded a Mazdaspeed 6 for it. It made sense at $4/gallon on my salary and they did an update to the turbo which screwed me up. I found it a very hard car to drive as it was and the update really f'd up the turbo.
I haven't driven a current year Altima but it's not faster than a Malibu Hybrid and definitely not faster than the Premier. I guess the 3.5 would compare to the Premier but the 2.5 is slower than both. It seems almost like Maxima time at that point.
The new Malibu's, not the base rental yard specials, are decent cars.
I'm only 6' but have a long torso, no moon/sun roofs. I'm sure I'd fit in an Altima, they typically have more headroom. Mine had 40". The Camry I sat in had around 37.6, so no chance. Even the roomier ones are only 38.5 but that might be enough.
Anyways, thanks for the insight.
I haven't driven a current year Altima but it's not faster than a Malibu Hybrid and definitely not faster than the Premier. I guess the 3.5 would compare to the Premier but the 2.5 is slower than both. It seems almost like Maxima time at that point.
The new Malibu's, not the base rental yard specials, are decent cars.
I'm only 6' but have a long torso, no moon/sun roofs. I'm sure I'd fit in an Altima, they typically have more headroom. Mine had 40". The Camry I sat in had around 37.6, so no chance. Even the roomier ones are only 38.5 but that might be enough.
Anyways, thanks for the insight.