That's a great first hand experience of ownership. Thank you for sharing that.We watched a real review of it on YouTube the other day. It's a CX-90 with the third row removed. I myself leased a CX-90 PHEV in September, 23 and thought when the lease is up I would prefer to "downsize" to the CX70 but it looks like it's just a CX-90 with chairs removed. I leave my third row down all the time anyway so I might as well go with another CX-90 in 2-1/2 years. I'd rather have the choice of folding the seats down versus not having them when I need them. In any event, I love the car and think it's the best I have ever owned my entire 69 years and I have had lots of different brands. This blows them all away in ride, 68 MPG, quietness, firm stance, rock solid materials inside and luxury (white interior with the faux wood and metal detailing looks awesome.).
That's going to determine my path forward as well (price delta between 90 and 70)How well CX-70 will sell depends on the price gap between a CX-90 and a CX-70.
Otherwise, like heywardjr said, just fold down the 3rd row seat.
I doubt that there will be much price difference. I could also see some differences between the trims for the CX-70 and CX-90 so a direct compare will be difficult to make.How well CX-70 will sell depends on the price gap between a CX-90 and a CX-70.
Otherwise, like heywardjr said, just fold down the 3rd row seat.
"I can say the regular 3.3 turbo will be coming later this year, just not at launch," said Jon Leverett, project manager for launch strategy at Mazda USA, during The AutoGuide Show Episode 5, adding "so there will be all three on offer towards the summer, but right now, just the high-power and the plug-in hybrid."
I am getting pricing from my Dealer today. Those seem to be around the same as the CX90? I suspect this may end up being a shell game with trims, which is how they will navigate the price deltaRumors are that the starting price for the CX-70 3.3 Turbo will be ~$40K and $52K for the Turbo S. PHEV will be roughly the same price as CX-90.
Bummer. Being forced to premium unleaded, with the highest HP version, was not something I wanted to see. That the base turbo variant will come out "later", given Mazda's already anemic approach to getting the 70 to market, doesn't provide confidence.
It was implied based on fuel economy table below from the Canadian government.Not sure where you saw that the high output needs to run on premium? If this is the same ad the CX-90 you should still be able to run it with 87 octane, with the associated drop in high end power.
@hoodlum posted in the other thread that the Canadian government already has fuel econ specs for the CX70 and they are nearly unchanged from the CX90 (if anything, the annual fuel cost is somehow worse?!!!):
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Official dimensions are not out yet, but the writing is clearly on the wall that the CX70 and CX90 are practically the same size!
Dimensions also are out...The pricing is up on the Mazda Canada website. Signature is 1k lower than the CX90, it comes with tan napa (wtf) and no artisan red. The planning guys are plain idiots.
It was implied based on fuel economy table below from the Canadian government.
Forget fuel economy. CX70 is confirmed to be the same length as the CX90!That is a wrong assumption i think. Transport canada changed the cost of the fuel for the 2025 calculation. That is why the cost is higher for the Cx-70.
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Annual fuel cost
Estimated annual fuel cost is based on the combined rating, a driving distance of 20,000 km and forecast prices of $1.45/L for regular gasoline, $1.70/L for premium gasoline, $1.70/L for diesel fuel and $0.16/kWh for electricity. Pricing for E85 is not provided.
Note: For model year 2025, the prices are $1.55/L for regular gasoline, $1.85/L for premium gasoline, $1.50/L for diesel fuel and $0.18/kWh for electricity.
For PHEVs, annual fuel cost values reflect a mix of electric mode and gasoline-only operation »
haha I checked earlier and didn't see anything.The pricing is up on the Mazda Canada website. Signature is 1k lower than the CX90, it comes with tan napa (wtf) and no artisan red. The planning guys are plain idiots.
Probably not comparing apples to apples. If true, the CX70 is truly a dead horse not even worth beating!This Winnipeg Sun article was interesting - they're saying the CX-70 pricing is coming in at $5K Canadian MORE than the equivalent CX-90 trim level. 2025 Mazda CX-70 starts at $49,750 in Canada.
Quote: "The MSRP of the plug-in-hybrid variant of the CX-70 is $58,750 before fees, so it also sits five grand higher than the equivalent PHEV CX-90."
Hopefully an error in the article, a $5K increase compared to the 90 is truly off the wall.