New owner (maybe?) + Recall Notice!?
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Been following this thread the last few days, just chiming in that I'm not even worry a bit about it although I have my 12yo daughter in the back seat 80% of the time. Driving in Minnesota, I've got slipping/spinning on the highway a few times and those were truly dangerous. My daughter is in karate, and although they have protective gears, a classmate just got a bloody nose from a punch in sparring the other day. It's not like I don't worry, I do equip my wife's car with snow tires, I do watch my daughter in sparring closely, but comparing to these incidents, I feel this recall is nothing to worry about, especially a fix is on the way.
And then, there's this thing called karma. And when karma hits, there's not much you can do to avoid it because it's just a result of what you've done (in current and past lives)
And then, there's this thing called karma. And when karma hits, there's not much you can do to avoid it because it's just a result of what you've done (in current and past lives)
Kinghardcor
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Yeah, I'll have it done eventually too, probably when I take my car in for my next oil change. I won't be hassling my dealer for a loaner, and I'll be investing all the money I save by not buying lottery tickets for my kids education. I'll spend all the time I save by not going out of my way for this fixing up fruits and vegetables for my kid, which will undoubtedly prolong her life way more than this recall.
All the while, my kid will be protected from lightning while in my CX-5 since the metal body will conduct any strike (from the blue or otherwise) around her!
Ride92, yes my numbers take into account all the cars zooming around you. All those billions of miles driven by CX-5s around the world whithout incident weren't driven on desert roads.
That's not how you figure odds, though, not even a little bit. Using your method if you reduced the miles in your calculation to feet then you end up with 1 in 105,600,000,000,000. Or you could say the very next 100,000 miles I drive my odds become 100,000 chances in 20,000,000,000? Or if I drive 20 billion miles my chances are now 20 billion in 20 billion, or 1:1, or 100%? Nah!
That's exactly how you figure odds.
True, that would be your odds per foot traveled. In reality, it would be less than that and we don't know how low it actually is because there hasn't been a single person burned in a CX-5 due to this issue.
Well, I didn't check your math, but yes, the more you drive, the higher the odds. If your math is correct, and you drive 20 billion miles, your odds would actually be less than 1:1, because nobody has ever died from this so we don't even have a rate to work with. But it would take over 38,000 YEARS to drive that far assuming you could average 60 mph and drive 24 hours/day, 7 days/week for 38,000 years.
Well, you are is some regards correct. To truly figure odds you need enough data to compile statistics. Here we have no data at all since it has not happened in ballpark 20 biliion miles. For one I think the last statement speaks for itself. Second, we can certainly infer an approximate order of magnitude of the odds from a lack of occurrence. And yes, the approximate odds I inferred are for one mile driven so scale it anyway you want it. Bottom line: unless you plan to drive to Pluto on a buisy highway, you probably don't have to worry about this.
Edit: MikeM is basically saying the same as I am. Kinghardcor is correct that if the odds were 1:20 billion, driving 20 billion miles don't make the odds 1:1, just like flipping a coin twice doesn't insure heads. Odds increase more slowly (see Bernoulli trials) than that which gives even more weight to my argument in the end... Even driving 20 billion miles, you would still have about only a 1:3 chance of this happening! (And probably even less)
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Kinghardcor
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No, no and no.
This whole "data/number crunching" bs is stupid. Bottom line is people who test these things in rear end collisions seem to think if you're driving a cx5, get creamed there is some increased risk of fuel spillage which indeed lends to an increased risk of fire which translates to increased risk of death in a rear end collision. How many affected cx5s have had serious rear end damage, how many of those leaked fuel, how much fuel was onboard at time of crash, was crash on level ground? Those are the numbers that matter and ones I'm pretty sure no one here is privy to so call it 20 billion, call ppl pansys because no REPORTED deaths or injuries have come from it and some of us paricularly those with children are concerned..you know because all car companies and agencies are nothing if they're not 100% honest about everything right gm, ford, vw, government finding Firestone to blame for Fords underinflated tires to "fix" their little rollover glitch.
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More like: Almost, probably and yes but for slightly different reasons (see my post above)
I may be a little more touchy on this topic than usual..my sis in law fairly recently had her odyssey rear end totaled by some kid looking down at his phone...all 4(yes she's nuts) of her young kids onboard all ok thank god but they were all pretty shaken by it. So go ahead call me a chicken..all it takes is one dummy texting i have to stop short to avoid a deer, bang. Do i honestly fear for my or my kids life if this happened on the way to preschool tomorrow..no but again all we can do is make good decisions based on the best info that we have. You guys can wait hell i could give a rats ass if you ever bring it in but if i find my vehicle is part of this I'm there as soon as reasonably possible if for no other reason than to hassle my dealer and insist on a free armored LR defender so i can feel safe again. What are we animals?
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I find it quite silly because I've been in numerous fields of work throughout my life and some of the people here would be horrified if they only knew the dangers that come across them each day. Ironically enough some of the most deadliest places are actually hospitals due to the medical errors, infectious diseases and misdiagnosis that goes on daily.
Some of the people here are completely panicked. Now there are numerous threads about this topic.
Statistically more people will die from a heart attack, cancer, infectious diseases, riding their bikes, crossing the street, etc. but people are a FEAR DRIVEN species and fear sells and drives people to make rash decisions.
Remember the whole EBOLA scare back here in the USA back in 2014?? It was all over the news. People were panicking and it was all out fear. Turns out it was nothing and no plague or epidemic happened. Nobody even died here in the USA.
Mazda will figure out a solution in due time. For now, stop the panic and live your life normally. There has been ZERO deaths or injuries from this issue. This whole thing has been completely blown out of proportion.
I am more concerned about the crumbling infrastructure I drive over ever day here in WA state. Many bridges will likely collapse here when a large quake strikes.
Kinghardcor
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It's doesn't appear anyone is panicked, it's just a discussion.
There is nothing wrong with wanting this repaired. Why not? It's a potential (although extremely slight) safety issue and the eventual fix is free. There is nothing wrong with sharing information and trying to understand what is going on. But some people in this thread suddenly refuse to drive their car as if it has suddenly become a ticking time bomb. That is irrational overreaction, a.k.a., panic.
Just posted a poll regarding our reaction.
Kinghardcor
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I've not read a post comparing them to time bombs, but I have read of people wanting to take advantage of dealers giving them loaners or rentals. Keeping miles off their car while getting to experience a different car, and all while not risking(although a very slight risk, like 1 in a gazillion if you only drive it an inch) an issue the manufacturer has admitted is a possibility seems like a win win win.
Hmmmm, and I wonder who will end up paying for all those "free" loaners in the end. Sounds to me like us calm and collected Mazda clients will end up in a loose loose loose...
