did a bs delete

[mazdaspeed32007]

removed the balance shaft in cylinder 3 today. gotta say, dont feel a difference at all. not during accel, decel, WOT, light throttle....idk why it was there. lol. the damn thing must have weighted 20 lbs. it was fairly easy to remove. you remove the 16? bolts that hold the pan on, a few that run into the tranny. pull off the pan and there it is mounted to the bottom of cylinder 3 with 4 studs.

also put in the windage tray which seems like it will do a pretty good job of keeping oil in the pan.

i was impressed on how clean my oil pan was. there was NOTHING on the pan at all. i use penzoil platinum full syntec 5w-30 and it does what they say it will do thats for sure.

anyway....(piss)

 

[turbo23]

this is how I look at it. If the manufacturer put it their, they did it for a good reason. Now I think its really only for comfort to fight the vibes, but even if thats its only function, it might help wear in the engine.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

yea, wear less because theres less strain on the motor. nevermind every cylinder doesnt have it besides number 3....so essentially cylinder 3 has more stress that the rest of the motor. less rotational mass, less work for your motor. i honestly sort of notice vibes when the car is in idle and i run the heater/air conditioning. but that was it. other than that im happy.

but since the manufacturer put it there....i say...they put a lot in this car that make it run like s***. including the pcv valve, intake, turbo seals, two catalytic converters (one does more than enough), the suspension....

 

[b00bs for n00bs]

this is how I look at it. If the manufacturer put it their, they did it for a good reason. Now I think its really only for comfort to fight the vibes, but even if thats its only function, it might help wear in the engine.

wait wait wait...
the engine was not originally designed with a balance shaft. 2.3 duratec was in rangers for a long time without a balance shaft.
my bs is also gone, and i noticed nothing as well.
what i like about this mod is that you get to run more oil.

 

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

wait wait wait...
the engine was not originally designed with a balance shaft. 2.3 duratec was in rangers for a long time without a balance shaft.
my bs is also gone, and i noticed nothing as well.
what i like about this mod is that you get to run more oil.

Did it occur to you that the engine in the Ranger wasn`t squeezing out 115 horses per liter? That has to make a difference. I don`t know if smoothing the cycling of the engine will affect longevity or not, but there is a significant difference between the two motors.

 

[b00bs for n00bs]

the bs is in there to eliminate vibrations and has little to do with how much power the engine makes.

 

[8.5MS3]

the bs is in there to eliminate vibrations and has little to do with how much power the engine makes.

less rotational mass = less parasitic losses = more power makes it to the ground

 

[b00bs for n00bs]

hahahahaha. that's not what i meant. i meant the power output of the engine wouldn't determine whether or not mazda uses a bs in the engine.
what you're saying is correct in theory, but i doubt you've done a bs delete since you say that.
it might free up about 1hp.
maybe the engine revs more freely, but everyone i've done this mod with says they don't notice anything.
i didn't notice anything either.
just more oil. i can haz some?

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

i cant see why removing it would effect the endurance of the engine at all. your running a quart and a half more oil so your cycling a larger amount of oil over the same parts. and seeing that your pushing 115hp or more, depending on mods, per liter would make removing it more beneficial because your not adding weight and strain to the parts. think of it this way....

using your big truck to drive for 100,000 miles or,
using your big truck to drive for 100,000 miles while towing a boat.

the more your motor has to work to pull along a load the more stress the motor endures and the less likely it is to last.

does it make a HUGE difference....prob not. but every bit counts!

 

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

i cant see why removing it would effect the endurance of the engine at all. your running a quart and a half more oil so your cycling a larger amount of oil over the same parts. and seeing that your pushing 115hp or more, depending on mods, per liter would make removing it more beneficial because your not adding weight and strain to the parts. think of it this way....

using your big truck to drive for 100,000 miles or,
using your big truck to drive for 100,000 miles while carrying a rubber raft.

the more your motor has to work to pull along a load the more stress the motor endures and the less likely it is to last.

does it make a HUGE difference....prob not. but every bit counts!

fixed

I think a better analogy is the difference between driving every day on a newly paved road and one that is riddled with small potholes.

Edit: the more I think about this particular mod, and what you get versus effort required and potential losses, the more I think the op labelled it correctly, pun intended.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

fixed

I think a better analogy is the difference between driving every day on a newly paved road and one that is riddled with small potholes.

Edit: the more I think about this particular mod, and what you get versus effort required and potential losses, the more I think the op labelled it correctly, pun intended.

hahahahaha. i was doing the windage tray anyway so i did the b/s delete. wasnt a waste for me.
im just saying...the extra strain on cylinder 3 is in question here. people have blown their motors once the whp has reached a certain point...and the cylinder to go has almost always been cylinder #3.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

plus...remember the extra quart and a half of oil for your forced induction motor

 

[ALIEN3T]

F2 who makes BS kits, (what im running) called Ford. YEs the 2.3 ranger didnt have it. BUt does anyone driving a truck care about vibrations, it for work.
They added it ot the 2.3 focus and Mazda3 . Why. this little $100 part was cheaper to install than redesigning the motor or tryign to research why it vibrates more.

IF you want to go a step further. Run the Ranger Crank, takes out to weight of the gear for a little more less rotating mass.

It is a net of about 3-5freed-up HP in a NA mazda3.


Been running it for 1.5 years no problems.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

1.5 quarts of oil more. 3-5 hp. my car is super fast now.