Cheating Spouse

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I agree with everything u said but that..... I think thats a cop out by saying I no longer want to be secual with you. I want other women.. if married u should not be "messin around" with other people.. unless your a swinger ;) lol

This wasn't to go messing around; this was when we officially separated. I agree with you though. And no, not a swinger... :D
 
Spooled up I agree with what your saying, but if it's not working then then person who has given up on the marriage should come out and state their feelings. Then to me it's not cheating, but if you go around with someone else in secret then that's cheating.
 
Being a single dad for the past 7yrs "cheating" doesn't have to mean having a physical relationship with someone. Cheating is a loose term and my ex chose drugs over me and her own children.

There had to be some sort of physical relationship going on in order to hide things like conversations from you and move straight in with someone else.

As far as court goes he has still committed adultery since you are still married I believe!
 
Spooled up I agree with what your saying, but if it's not working then then person who has given up on the marriage should come out and state their feelings. Then to me it's not cheating, but if you go around with someone else in secret then that's cheating.

I agree... he should have come to her and said "its not working out I think we need to seperate/divorce"

but when kids are involved it never goes smooth
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating


Personal relationships

With regard to human relationships, couples tend to expect sexual monogamy of each other. If so, then cheating commonly refers to forms of infidelity, particularly adultery.[5] However, there are other divisions of infidelity, which may be emotional. Cheating by thinking of, touching and talking with someone you are attracted to may be equally damaging to one of the parties. Emotional cheating may be correlated to that of emotional abuse, which to date is treated as seriously in a court of law as physical cheating. With the expansion of understanding of other cultures, there is a wide spectrum of what cheating means. When in a committed relationship, the definition of cheating is based on both parties opinions and both parties may redefine their understanding to match the party at an either lower or higher extreme of this definition. Some couples simply believe that cheating constitutes doing anything, whether verbal or physical, that one would not do in front of their significant other. Such examples would include: expressing attraction to another person, electronic communications, kissing, making out, and sexual relations.

Many people consider cheating to be any violation of the mutually agreed-upon rules or boundaries of a relationship, which may or may not include sexual monogamy. For example, in some polyamorous relationships, the concepts of commitment and fidelity do not necessarily hinge on complete sexual or emotional monogamy. Whether polyamorous or monogamous, the boundaries to which people agree vary widely, and sometimes these boundaries evolve within each relationship.



It covers pretty much every aspect. (rockon) wiki
 
We've been back and forth. But every time he felt "unloved" he went looking for sympathy from other girls who'd listen to him. One of which was on this car forum a couple years back. She'd wrote me saying that she was sorry, but that it was he that was persuing her. Then whenever we'd have an arguement over something, he would say "you're just insecure". I found a phone number in his drawer before all this. Then he'd post comments to other women that were inappropriate for a married man on his car forum. He lied about being out late and where he'd been after a night out on the town. I found the receipts in his pockets telling me the truth he didn't want to share. There were a lot of little things, but still we went on. Then all of a sudden Xmas Eve, after not talking to me all day, I asked what he wanted me to do since he wasn't talking to me, so he told me to leave. I didn't understand why, but I packed my son's and I's presents in the car and left that night. When I came back home, he was gone. Which is why he wanted me to go in the first place. Cop out and take off when I wasn't there. And soon after his friends started telling me the truth about her - which were confirmed just yesterday by both of them.
 
Hard,
i think, that if he intended on leaving you he should have man'd up and done it before starting anything with anyone else. It not fair to carry someone along like that.
I think that it was cheating, because the fact is you never accually broke up. But i can also see when he was coming from because guys a stupid, and we always look for the eazy way out.
 
sounds like an asshole and you should just be happy he left regardless of the manner in which it was done and what you want to label it. take your son, be happy he's still there with you, and move on.
 
I think you need to not try and understand any of this because it is obvious he does not have enough respect for his own son to ruin christmas for the both of you!

My ex ruined me pretty badly and all my energy goes to my kids and my car. I have been on one date in the past 7years and am still a young confident good looking guy that just got shafted. One day I will find the right person just like you were meant to. After getting back from vacation in NJ around all my family really makes me see how happy we should all be one day!!

Try to get past it and realize what's important in life...
 
We've been back and forth. But every time he felt "unloved" he went looking for sympathy from other girls who'd listen to him. One of which was on this car forum a couple years back. She'd wrote me saying that she was sorry, but that it was he that was persuing her. Then whenever we'd have an arguement over something, he would say "you're just insecure". I found a phone number in his drawer before all this. Then he'd post comments to other women that were inappropriate for a married man on his car forum. He lied about being out late and where he'd been after a night out on the town. I found the receipts in his pockets telling me the truth he didn't want to share. There were a lot of little things, but still we went on. Then all of a sudden Xmas Eve, after not talking to me all day, I asked what he wanted me to do since he wasn't talking to me, so he told me to leave. I didn't understand why, but I packed my son's and I's presents in the car and left that night. When I came back home, he was gone. Which is why he wanted me to go in the first place. Cop out and take off when I wasn't there. And soon after his friends started telling me the truth about her - which were confirmed just yesterday by both of them.




well then in that case he was cheating.. no doubt about it.. I'm sorry to hear things went down that way.. it sounds like he is a bad guy and u deff can do much better.
 
btw I think u should be happy he left and not worry about the negatives..

be thankfull he is NOT the father of your son..
 
Anyone who says its not cheating until there is sex doesn't understand what a marriage is supposed to be about...
Did he promote a relationship with someone else while married to you?.... That's cheating.
Did he plan a future of any sort with someone else while married to you?...
That's cheating.
Did he hide his actions and whereabouts from you? That's cheating.

Don't be a doormat... Love yourself more than that. Best of luck....
 
I think you need to not try and understand any of this because it is obvious he does not have enough respect for his own son to ruin christmas for the both of you!

My ex ruined me pretty badly and all my energy goes to my kids and my car. I have been on one date in the past 7years and am still a young confident good looking guy that just got shafted. One day I will find the right person just like you were meant to. After getting back from vacation in NJ around all my family really makes me see how happy we should all be one day!!

Try to get past it and realize what's important in life...

It's funny you should say that. I have one son, but always wanted more. I held out for 10 years for us to be a "complete" family. But one day he wanted it, the next he didn't. He was like a yo-yo. He said he didn't want to end up with child support. Not really the way you think when you're with someone for that long.

Now the girl he's with is a college student, 8 years younger than him and no kids and into modding too. Her last boyfriend got her into it. Then she'd troll the forums posting nonesense. You know the type. She doesn't have a clue about cars, so that's how she'd start coversations with them. But he doesnt seem to care that she was talking to everyone else too. They're both boo-hooing and rebounding. So he told me to go find my white picket fence elsewhere.

I think I'd be happy with a guy with kids. I love them. He hates them. Makes him neurotic. He used to send my son's friends home all the time because he didn't want to deal with them. He game them dirty looks when they'd walk through the front door. Hell, he didn't even deal with my son either. I was all he had most times. He always called us "you and your son". Never "us" or "we" as a family.
 
If it were me I would be more concerned about his microbiology and less concerned about whether his behavior is most appropriately described as "cheating".
 
It's funny you should say that. I have one son, but always wanted more. I held out for 10 years for us to be a "complete" family. But one day he wanted it, the next he didn't. He was like a yo-yo. He said he didn't want to end up with child support. Not really the way you think when you're with someone for that long.

Now the girl he's with is a college student, 8 years younger than him and no kids and into modding too. Her last boyfriend got her into it. Then she'd troll the forums posting nonesense. You know the type. She doesn't have a clue about cars, so that's how she'd start coversations with them. But he doesnt seem to care that she was talking to everyone else too. They're both boo-hooing and rebounding. So he told me to go find my white picket fence elsewhere.

I think I'd be happy with a guy with kids. I love them. He hates them. Makes him neurotic. He used to send my son's friends home all the time because he didn't want to deal with them. He game them dirty looks when they'd walk through the front door. Hell, he didn't even deal with my son either. I was all he had most times. He always called us "you and your son". Never "us" or "we" as a family.

Ugh! That's got to sting. Let me just say that I'm terribly sorry you're going through this. But I think in the end you'll be better off. He's not only hurting you, but he's hurting your son.

Plus the fact that I'm a firm believer in karma so he'll get what's coming to him. (glare)
 
It's funny you should say that. I have one son, but always wanted more. I held out for 10 years for us to be a "complete" family. But one day he wanted it, the next he didn't. He was like a yo-yo. He said he didn't want to end up with child support. Not really the way you think when you're with someone for that long.

Now the girl he's with is a college student, 8 years younger than him and no kids and into modding too. Her last boyfriend got her into it. Then she'd troll the forums posting nonesense. You know the type. She doesn't have a clue about cars, so that's how she'd start coversations with them. But he doesnt seem to care that she was talking to everyone else too. They're both boo-hooing and rebounding. So he told me to go find my white picket fence elsewhere.

I think I'd be happy with a guy with kids. I love them. He hates them. Makes him neurotic. He used to send my son's friends home all the time because he didn't want to deal with them. He game them dirty looks when they'd walk through the front door. Hell, he didn't even deal with my son either. I was all he had most times. He always called us "you and your son". Never "us" or "we" as a family.

Sounds more and more like you should be glad he left. I don't think I could be with anyone that took that attitude with my son. It's better to find out now than to waste any more time...
 
eh I dont believe in "emotionaly cheating" I think thats just another way to blame somone else for not loving u anymore.

I think you'd feel that way until someone did that to you. I think in some cases, that can be worse than cheating physically.
 
He cheated, she is a slut, and they should both be stoned to death.



Get a lawyer, keep track if he pays you anything for support, insurance, childcare, etc.
 
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