Broken 3rd gear x 3

Straight Cut Gears are no good for a daily driving car, since they make such a loud ass noise, i dont think anyone here wants to hear that noise all day long, just imagine 5th gear on straight cut and a long trip... Its better to have Helical Cut Cryo treated gears i guess..

also whats the point of helical cut gears if they are the same as stock ?
 
what he means is the stock gears are helical cut too. what they are made of and how big they are is entierly different.
 
what he means is the stock gears are helical cut too. what they are made of and how big they are is entierly different.

ok, i get it know.... i mean, i have 3rd and 4th gear from TBK Helical cut and Cryo treated, do i really need to be aware of anything else breaking in my transmission ? i also have Welded LSD with Cryo Treatment. bad ass welding but, its holding, i need a little help here to know what i might need to change.
 
Straight Cut Gears are no good for a daily driving car, since they make such a loud ass noise, i dont think anyone here wants to hear that noise all day long, just imagine 5th gear on straight cut and a long trip... Its better to have Helical Cut Cryo treated gears i guess..

also whats the point of helical cut gears if they are the same as stock ?

OK, 5th gear doesn't change, it's on the outside of the casing, you use your old one. As for the noise, Par-engineering told me that you will not hear them over the exhaust.

As for the hiboost gears, I hope they do hold 600whp, but from pictures I have seen, I am not too sure.
 
OK, 5th gear doesn't change, it's on the outside of the casing, you use your old one. As for the noise, Par-engineering told me that you will not hear them over the exhaust.

As for the hiboost gears, I hope they do hold 600whp, but from pictures I have seen, I am not too sure.

well i really dont think i could ever be near those numbers, its really ridiculous for a street car.. no fun at all to drive..but Focus one more question, since you know and seen in pictures the gears i have, do i have to worry about anything else in my tranny if i up the boost a little more ? is there something i should be aware off ?
 
these is what i have as for 3rd and 4th gears,, do i really need to be aware of anything else breaking ? 1st, 2nd, or 5th gears ?

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well i really dont think i could ever be near those numbers, its really ridiculous for a street car.. no fun at all to drive..but Focus one more question, since you know and seen in pictures the gears i have, do i have to worry about anything else in my tranny if i up the boost a little more ? is there something i should be aware off ?

From all the information I have gathered, and I know there will be people arguing with me on this one, people that have engineering degrees and what not. BUT, no degree helps when it comes to real world tests by owners.

Let me say, as a stock transmission we have a good one, but not meant to hold power, just like most other transmissions, VW, etc...

The problem with the G series transmission for high power use is two fold.

First problem is oil circulation. The gears are mounted on sleeves or bushings, whatever you want to call them. Every time I have broken a gear, it is usually accompanied with scoring and/or burning on the accompanying synchro. Tells me there was a lack of oil.

Second problem, is the casings being weak, and flexing, thus causing more stress on the gears.

Both these areas can be addressed with a Par gearset. How ??

Well , the Par gearset uses needle bearings behind the gears, instead of sleeves or bushings. This helps with oiling since more oil can flow between needle bearings , and the gears spin more freely as well.

Second, by replacing 3rd and 4th gear by straight cut, you are eliminating the side load, (at least a good amount of it, if not all ), you get with helical, therefore, less flex of the casing.

Another thing that can contribute to case strength, is to ceramic coat it. People will argue about heat, but the tranny does not get that hot that it will affect it, unless of course you road race. And if you do road race, then it's a good investment to get a tranny cooler with a pump...
 
I hope this picture is not complete because there are parts missing:

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i really dont know anything about transmissions, but thats how TBK had them in their table for me to take the pictures of proof of the gears i have, i really dont know if there is anything missing, can you be a little more specific about whats missing ? and what else you think i might need to change in the future to have a long lasting Tranny ?
 
i really dont know anything about transmissions, but thats how TBK had them in their table for me to take the pictures of proof of the gears i have, i really dont know if there is anything missing, can you be a little more specific about whats missing ? and what else you think i might need to change in the future to have a long lasting Tranny ?

Two posts up.

Don't do anything yet until it breaks. Then you can plan it.
 
Two posts up.

Don't do anything yet until it breaks. Then you can plan it.

ok i got you.... is it worth the money a quife LSD ? or if my bad welded LSD breaks should i get a revised one welded and cryo treated again ? big price difference
 
how is the engagement on the straight cut? would it be safe to get the PAR gear set with only 3rd & 4th gears being straight and rest helical or is it recomended all the same? Also what are the helical PAR gears rated for?
 
how is the engagement on the straight cut? would it be safe to get the PAR gear set with only 3rd & 4th gears being straight and rest helical or is it recomended all the same? Also what are the helical PAR gears rated for?

You can get whatever combination you like. Par gearsets, according to their site, are used by racers with 500hp.
 
i really dont know anything about transmissions, but thats how TBK had them in their table for me to take the pictures of proof of the gears i have, i really dont know if there is anything missing, can you be a little more specific about whats missing ? and what else you think i might need to change in the future to have a long lasting Tranny ?

Where's the Shift collar (that the fork attaches to?) I sure hope they didn't put those spring keys in there upside down either, they're marked REALLY hard to see, but if they did that thing is gonna come apart like yo momma's legs on prom night!
 
$5500 motor still owe $1400
$3000 gearset

^Just FYI, to all of those who are interested in a PAR setup, I may be offering these in the near future. They will be available as the entire new gearset as well as drop in replacements for our stock 3rd and 4th gears. The latter should cost under $1400 to your door.
 

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