Broken 3rd gear x 3

[Kooldino]

So tonight I broke my third third gear.

I was accelerating mildly....at partial throttle running just a few psi. My one year old GTX 3rd gear gave out.

Before it, I broke two stock 3rd gears.

Back in June, I popped the stock 4th gear and replaced it with a cryo treated and micropolished 4th gear.

At this point, I'm running out of options. I may go with the Hiboost 3rd and 4th gear if I can get ahold of Juan.

 

[mike2225]

ouch that really blows, did you have the gtx gear cryo treated and micro polished?

 

[djarkitek]

thats sucks! transmission is turning into the #1 problem these days...

 

[Kooldino]

ouch that really blows, did you have the gtx gear cryo treated and micro polished?

No, but my OEM 4th gear is.

 

[Kooldino]

thats sucks! transmission is turning into the #1 problem these days...

Has been for me for 2 years now.

 

[turbolife]

Sucks man, sorry to hear...

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

is there any options outthere to fix these bad ass transmission we have ? can we bolt on another tranny from another car ? theres got to be something out there to cure these problem, its getting worst than the bad ass oem rods !!!

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

So tonight I broke my third third gear.

I was accelerating mildly....at partial throttle running just a few psi. My one year old GTX 3rd gear gave out.

Before it, I broke two stock 3rd gears.

Back in June, I popped the stock 4th gear and replaced it with a cryo treated and micropolished 4th gear.

At this point, I'm running out of options. I may go with the Hiboost 3rd and 4th gear if I can get ahold of Juan.

you can always talk to FOCUS, he seems to have the formula for an INSANE bullet proof Tranny !!!

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

I also had same problems.. poped 3rd gear and 4th.. and Went with TBK 3rd and 4th Gears, and cryo treated the entire transmission internals including the helical cut gears mentioned above, and its holding like a champ, i have 372whp at 15 psi and GT3582R Turbo and its all running exellent..

 

[Jaysanooch]

So tonight I broke my third third gear.

OH NO!...AGAIN! What a PITA! What other options is there? Rebuild it and de-tune your car? Or going with straight cut gears or dog box. I know you have better places to put that money towards....so this is a tough one.

I also had same problems.. poped 3rd gear and 4th.. and Went with TBK 3rd and 4th Gears, and cryo treated the entire transmission internals including the helical cut gears mentioned above, and its holding like a champ, i have 372whp at 15 psi and GT3582R Turbo and its all running exellent..

Knock on wood...your tranny keeps holding up but with that amount of power...how long is the big question. I think your only getting by because you haven't driven your car much. Kooldino has been pounding on 300whp for years....so imagine "372whp".

 

[Boosted03MSP]

That sucks Dana. I guess next 3rd you put in will have to be cryo treated like your 4th.

 

[nvmsp]

You seem like you got money, be the first to do a custom gear set for us(did that guy focus already do it?). Or somebody find a place that will do it, get a final price. Obviously there is a market for them.

The transmission is whats gonna hold me back from doing the last few final upgrades which are the big ones.

I might have to back out of the protege game if this problem can't be solved.
I don't plan on running 18psi or more, but I may once or twice when I have stronger rods just to see how it feels. just 9psi-10psi pulls hard as hell with a non-stock turbo and even with the stock one, so 15psi and up must be hell on the transmission. I plan on using abut 15psi to race and 10-12 daily. Thats more than enough but if the transmission keeps breaking, whats the point.?!

 

[Kooldino]

I also had same problems.. poped 3rd gear and 4th.. and Went with TBK 3rd and 4th Gears, and cryo treated the entire transmission internals including the helical cut gears mentioned above, and its holding like a champ, i have 372whp at 15 psi and GT3582R Turbo and its all running exellent..

Yeah, but how long will it last is the question....

 

[shane02pro5]

First I was just asking about 3rd & 4th

Hello Shane,

We have available a 3rd~4th gear set for the Mazda G-Series transmission
fitted to your vehicle. Like you, many of our customers have big issues
with the gears in these transmissions.

The Mazda G-Series gear sets are actually on special for customers in
the USA during the month of January for the very first time, so your
enquiry has been timed perfectly.

The pricing for the 3rd/4th synchromesh gear option is $1,530 AUD
(Normally $1,700 AUD). We only have straight cut gears in stock at the
moment with helical cut version made on an order basis. The lead time
for a helical set will be approximately 6~8 weeks.

We look forward to hearing back from you soon.

Regards,

Gerard Chan
Precision Automation and Robotics


Then I found out I could get my taxes started so $$$!!
And I asked about the full gearset!

Hi Shane,

We also have the synchromesh engagement 1st~4th gear set for the Mazda
G-Series gearbox on special this month for $3,420 AUD (Normally $3,800
AUD). Included in the pricing is the input shaft and gears. These
replace the same factory parts inside your transmission.
As an option, we can also supply double synchroniser versions of 3rd and
4th gears so that you can have the very best shifting transmission
available. If your tranmisssion is single synchromesh on 3rd gear, the
std Mazda 2nd gear synchromesh can be used with our 3rd and 4th gears.

There is also an option crown wheel and pinion upgrade kit available for
the FWD transmissions. These come in a number of final drive ratios and
are also on special for $1,210 AUD.

If you order the whole gear set and crown wheel/pinion kit together, the
pricing drops to $4,230 AUD, so you're saving an additional $400 AUD.

These kits are all in stock and ready to go.

Regards,

Gerard Chan
Precision Automation and Robotics
Ph: +61 2 9820 1100 Fax: +61 2 9820 1900
19 Saggart Field Road
Minto
NSW, 2566
Australia

I'm assuming I need a quaife in order to do the full set and don't if I only do 3rd & 4th. But I would most likely put in an order for Helical cut double synchro 1-4 and then an extra $$$$ for the quaife??!!

 

[nvmsp]

sounds kinda good.

 

[03.5MSP]

Sorry to hear about that Dana. Hope you get your car up and running soon.

 

[Focus]

I'm assuming I need a quaife in order to do the full set and don't if I only do 3rd & 4th. But I would most likely put in an order for Helical cut double synchro 1-4 and then an extra $$$$ for the quaife??!!

You can bolt the ring gear to the stock MSP diff, but if you're going that far, why not get the quaife...

 

[Maxx Mazda]

bad deal man, I broke something in mine too last year, STILL haven't touched it lol! I'll pull the cover off this weekend and start tearing it down...

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

Yeah, but how long will it last is the question....

well only time will tell Kooldino, the 2 days i had the car in my hands with that power, i raced the s*** out of it for straight 2 days, power shifting and everything, i mean when you add cryo treatment the parts usually gets stronger and last longer without breaking, i hope it takes the longest time to break, and if they do, ill just install the Quife LSD, and those Australian Gear sets but in helical Cut Gears, since these is for daily driving, and dont want loud ass noise while driving...

 

[Focus]

This is the PAR Gearset: