Msp Build. Its Finaly Time.

[cbr600rx7]

Any one with any experience with this kind of set up or any one that knows a good shop in the VA, TN, NC, SC fill free to download your ideas and your experiences. (cheers2)

As some of you all know im looking to upgrade the MSP to around 225 ground horses but still keep it safe and keep it as quick spooling as possible. Ok so this is what I have come up with. Corksport Downpipe, Corksport FMIC and piping, 440 injectors, apexi AFC, Protg Garages single runner intake manifold, some sort of new exhaust manifold (holding out for some info on rpms new set up(naughty)) and lots of tuning running around 10 psi. The car currently has a thermal cat back with test pipe, short ram, and awr motor mounts.

Once again any input is welcome and I am willing to have the car taken a good distance for a good shop. I am currently over seas and I am trying to have this done by the time I come back in June so the shop can have it until then or as long as they need the car. I am also open to any new ideas or input. Thanks for all your support on the forum and I cant wait to get this project started.(usa)

 

[junya1985]

talk to kooldino on the forums he can lead you to the good side

 

[magnumP5]

Ditch the Apexi AFC - it won't work. Go with something like the Splitsecond AFC or the Unichip.

 

[1moreMPH]

if you're talking to kooldino, then you may as well have him get you his MPI setup for management. trash the 440's, and just add an extra injector to the charge pipe controlled via MPI. then you can also change the tune down the road if you want.

 

[cbr600rx7]

How hard is the tuning with the extra injectors and are there any cons. And does the MPI work as well as the unichip or splitsecond.

 

[junya1985]

kooldino went 13's with the mpi

 

[mike2225]

Im running the mpi tuner setup by kooldino and my car runs great. Going with an extra injector setup is cheaper and easier to tune.

 

[cbr600rx7]

do you have any issues with the throttle body and the extra fuel.

 

[blkspdfreak]

a good shop that has a dyno and they do great work is east coast performance here in jacksonville nc. im based at camp lejeune and they do 90% of the performance around here (if they want it done right). they have worked on msp's before and i drove by yesterday and 2 were parked outside, both with blown motors, and they were stock. look em up and good luck with the build.

 

[mike2225]

do you have any issues with the throttle body and the extra fuel.

No issues at all with either and ive had the setup for more than 2 years.

 

[Kooldino]

PM'd!

 

[cbr600rx7]

With supporting mods intake, turbo back, new exhaust manifold and intake manifold, fuel support, FMIC, piggy back and tuning is it possible to support 14 psi on the msp safely with out breaking into the bottom end? I was under the impression that 12psi was pushing it on the street and 14 was getting high even for an aggressively tuned weekend warrior. The reason I am asking is I was told different from east coast performance today. By the way great tip(2thumbs). They do seam knowledgeable and have tuned a few MSPs. But when they told me she could run 14 safe on a street set up I was taken back(uhm). (I did emphasize on the safe part).

 

[magnumP5]

I believe NSN Motorsports has had a block up to 16 psi with fuel upgrades and the member 505Zoom here is putting down over 250 whp with the stock block. The last time I checked 505 was pulling lots of timing at peak torque to remain safe. My advice is unless you have some sort of timing control and a decent amount of fuel upgrades (pump, injectors, etc.) stay below 10 psi. I'm currently at 10 psi with the stock injectors and stock fuel pumpo and I can keep my AFRs at 11.5:1 under boost. I have a feeling though that I'm pretty close to the limit with the stock fuel system...

 

[cbr600rx7]

So with the upgraded fuel system it would be possible to run that amount of boost. And would that be pushing the stock rods at 250 WHP. Sorry to ask so many question's i have done my research just trying to get the most out of the car as safely as possible.

 

[magnumP5]

So with the upgraded fuel system it would be possible to run that amount of boost. And would that be pushing the stock rods at 250 WHP. Sorry to ask so many question's i have done my research just trying to get the most out of the car as safely as possible.

Yeah - that's really pushing it! What I meant by the fuel was that after a point you are going to have to upgrade the fuel system - the stock injectors and pump will not be able to handle too much. 250 whp can be done on a stock block but I wouldn't even think about it without some sort of timing control - you are going to want to pull timing at those levels with the stock block!

 

[cbr600rx7]

Would 440’s be able to handle the load they had recommend 550’s. I know at 10 psi the stock injectors are at 90% duty cycle so I figured they would have to upgrade along with the fuel pump. The fuel rail should be able to handle the load but would you recommend replacing it any way.

 

[magnumP5]

Would 440s be able to handle the load they had recommend 550s. I know at 10 psi the stock injectors are at 90% duty cycle so I figured they would have to upgrade along with the fuel pump. The fuel rail should be able to handle the load but would you recommend replacing it any way.

Hmm, didn't know that about the duty cycle - mine have no problem keeping up at 10 psi. But yeah, 440's should be good up to a point - to what point I'm not really sure. Look around the forums a little - I'm sure it's explained somewhere

 

[cbr600rx7]

What part of Blacksburg are your from if you dont mind me asking.

 

[magnumP5]

What part of Blacksburg are your from if you dont mind me asking.

Nope don't mind - not that it wouldn't be hard to spot me anyway. I go to VT - live in Foxridge. My permanent address is Virginia Beach though (hence both addresses) but I'm home for winter break currently. You from the area?

 

[cbr600rx7]

I am stationed at Fort Bragg NC, but my home is bent mt near Roanoke. I have some family that live off of prices fork RD down in blacksburg.