MS6 or Volvo S60R??

[tritonheat1]

I hope this is a joke list

Are you serious!! What....do you think the MS6 is in a better class than the car's i mentioned above or than the S60R??

Where do you get the MS6 is a better car. Because it's not, they both have different options, one's higher quality than the other, and one costs more.

I love my MS6, but it aint the best car out there!! Maybe in it's class but that's it

 

[MS6S2K]

As a Speed 6 owner, and having seen the S60R, I'm sorry, but the Speed 6 is $10k cheaper for a reason folks. I have not driven one, but from looking at it, I see a nicer car PERIOD. Different class, so unfair to compare the two.

Granted from an enthusiast point of view, the Speed 6 is the way to go. The less refined and luxurious cars are always a better choice because they are affordable. Do you really need all that luxury if it's an enthusiast car? What sold me on my Speed 6 was the massive incentives.No way I'd have paid anywhere $28k for this car. If I was in a higher income class, and looking for a fast luxury sedan, I'd definitely take the S60R over the Speed 6. It shows it's superiority overall, as it should.

 

[4GIVEN]

Im basically looking for longevity. My 850 has 150k on it and it still flies. The S60r has the same 2.3l in it. But I love the MS6. I would rather buy the MS6 but my wife wants something reliable. So I would like to talk her out of the s60r but I dont know much about the reliablity of the engine in the MS6. Is the engine in the MS6 all-new, or is it the same 2.3l that they have used for a long time? Thats what it all comes down to.

 

[tritonheat1]

Im basically looking for longevity. My 850 has 150k on it and it still flies. The S60r has the same 2.3l in it. But I love the MS6. I would rather buy the MS6 but my wife wants something reliable.

Any car can be reliable as long as you take care of it. I had a 94 Protege LX 5-speed and it lasted me until 2002 with about 175K on it. I only had to change the 2nd gear syncrhos on it because i modded the car and ripped it 2 7400rpms fuel cut-off most of the time in 2nd gear. I took care of that car washed it daily and changed oil about every 3500-4k miles. I let her go and got a 03 Silver MZ6.

So I would like to talk her out of the s60r but I dont know much about the reliablity of the engine in the MS6. Is the engine in the MS6 all-new, or is it the same 2.3l that they have used for a long time? Thats what it all comes down to.

It basically share's the same engine from the new Mazda 3's but the MS6 and MS3's come (DISI) Turbocharged with a 6-speed.

It's all preference man. If money wasn't an option to you. I would get the S60R, but if your more into imports. I'd say get the MS6 and do a couple modifications, it's fun tuning a car!!........................Good luck

 

[nvmsp]

My dad for a work car, has a 2002 Ford focus zts. It has and I s*** you not, 275,000 miles on it. Stock motor, stock trans automatic, stock everything.

And he didn't even really take that good care of it. Now since I help him take better care of it he does oil changes on time and air filter changes, etc.

 

[Rotary_Powered]

*cough* 2.5L Inline 5 /= 2.3 Inline 4 *cough*

Both cars have fairly different engines.

 

[4GIVEN]

Your right, my 850 has a 2.3l inline 5. What that heck was I thinking? I was thinking of spending between 25-28k on my next car, and my wife would rather spend "MY" money on a used S60R with 20k on it than to buy a NEW MS6. Is she crazy or what?

 

[dadasracecar]

Zigger had a S60R that got stolen. he bought a Speed6 so he'd be the best person to ask.

 

[Killer]

initial cost and classification of the car is only a small part of the picture. I know for a fact Volvo parts and labor hours are through the roof compared to Mazda.

 

[mayaman]

If I'm going to jump into S60R price territory I'd probably be thinking something other than Volvo. As others mentioned if you put the difference into tuning the Mazda you end up with a car that blows the S60R out of the water. The only thing you can argue is that the S60R looks better, otherwise Mazda wins on value per dollar. But it is still a Mazda, and a Volvo is more of a status symbol thingy for sure.

 

[ottawaP5]

I remember reading a Car And Driver article on the S60R and they wern't really impressed by how it drove. They did give it top marks for interior quality though. The blue guages are a really nice touch.

The best thing to do is go drive an MS6, only you can tell if the S60R or the MS6 is right for you.

If money was no object I would probably be driving the Volvo. Or an M5 for that matter

 

[gerasimatos]

BMW 135i FTW - **** the Mazda and Volvo.

http://www.bmw135i.net/info/135i-info.htm

 

[mayaman]

Yeah actually, the 135i is very nice. Small but nice.

 

[gerasimatos]

Yeah actually, the 135i is very nice. Small but nice.

And deathly fast with its inline 6 twin turbocharged RWD engine and low curb weight. Gotta love it!

 

[LBV]

Yeah - put a Procede chip from Vishnu in that and watch out!!

 

[AWDTerror]

while a type of car as a effect on your insurance, you age and driving history have a good amount of effect also

 

[Mazda6Geo]

First, I'm new to this forum, and want to say hello to everyone.

I had a Volvo XC70 (big boot wagon, light crossover), not the S60R.
I had to visit the service in almost every month for different kinds of "little things". (reflash, window settings, rattles, wheel alignment, bushings, upper engine mount etc.) I had a good service, but it was way too much.
The real problems started at 110.000 km, turbo, awd, climate, front and rear susp. etc.

And rattles. Everywhere. Body flex.
So, I loved the car, but it's not the same class as an Audi or BMW at all, but almost the same price.
My friend has a V70R, and has the same complaints.

I bought my MS6, and the quality seems to be higher (build quality not reputation) - though I have only 3.000 km in it.

I put my radar detector (hidden under the bumper) in the MS6, and have to say, it's much easier to work with.

I've choosen the MS6 because I wanted the get the best value for my money, and it gives more fun and joy than "money can buy".

Just my 2 cents. I hope I could help.

 

[Killer]

welcome aboard Geo.

 

[kalte]

First, I'm new to this forum, and want to say hello to everyone.

I had a Volvo XC70 (big boot wagon, light crossover), not the S60R.
I had to visit the service in almost every month for different kinds of "little things". (reflash, window settings, rattles, wheel alignment, bushings, upper engine mount etc.) I had a good service, but it was way too much.
The real problems started at 110.000 km, turbo, awd, climate, front and rear susp. etc.

And rattles. Everywhere. Body flex.
So, I loved the car, but it's not the same class as an Audi or BMW at all, but almost the same price.
My friend has a V70R, and has the same complaints.

I bought my MS6, and the quality seems to be higher (build quality not reputation) - though I have only 3.000 km in it.

I put my radar detector (hidden under the bumper) in the MS6, and have to say, it's much easier to work with.

I've choosen the MS6 because I wanted the get the best value for my money, and it gives more fun and joy than "money can buy".

Just my 2 cents. I hope I could help.

damn..that's one heck of troubled car...i was looking at a 2004 S40 T5...wondering bout its reliability in the long run

 

[jollybluedumbaz]

im a valet at a reputable hotel in los angeles and i can certainly say althought the s60R looks somewhat nice, there are some things that make it drive like s***.
The clutch is very touchy
There is no shift boot, its just a gay looking plate
Volvos are less sporty and more of a class so i you want something fast get a ms6.
my professional opinion. ")