Sls Horrifying Product!!!

Don't have to be an engineer to recognize that it's not a very good design.
Easy to say after a failure. No one raised this issue when the mount was being released. No one raised the issue when its performance was being praised. It's funny how many people are speaking out about the "poor design" after the fact.
 
Are you kidding? It's a huge improvement over stock. The stock mount is very soft, and allows the engine to move a lot. The difference was night and day for me.

Yeah, that's why we replaced it. But the failure of the rubber in the stock mount didn't cause any real damage because the engine would still have the metal part of the mount to support it (which, by the way, has a design where the force is distributed properly). If the SLS mount breaks at the weld, it means it suddenly goes from lots of support to no support at all, and could cause some real damage as the engine suddenly has to rely only on the other mounts.
 
Easy to say after a failure. No one raised this issue when the mount was being released. No one raised the issue when its performance was being praised. It's funny how many people are speaking out about the "poor design" after the fact.

actually your wrong about that. there was a few of us who did tell him it was a bad design. its not sls's design, so this was even before they got them. im not saying people arent jumping on the poor design bandwagon but it was brought up in its prototype stages.
 
That's nice, but it would have been more helpful to the community had you indicated something to that effect in one of your posts in the SLS thread.

i dont understand what your getting at? i told beau it was a bad design, did that stop him from making it? did that stop eric from buying them? others said it was a bad design, ive seen it posted..did it stop anyone from gettting them ? no not really, so i dont see what exactly your trying to say here. i do my part for the community. untill you catch up to me u can refrain from telling me whats good or not for the community.
 
I did not see any bad design posts, and even if I did, I guess I admittedly got caught up on the "omg!!SLSmotormount!!!" hype. I'm hoping with my adventure with product faults, people will make a wiser and more knowledgeable decision than I did...hah
 
Any design can be made better--it's part of product evolution. Since SLS is backing up their products and honoring their warranty, I don't think there's too much to be worried about.

One or two failures out of however many they sold isn't bad for an aftermarket product. This isn't factory stuff--these aftermarket companies don't have the resources to do full load measurements or structural modeling to optimize their designs. It's a reality you just have to accept when you choose to buy aftermarket products.
no they don't, but at least they could've attempted to copy the bracket design that mazda made (AWR did that, and only 1 failure due to bad welds which was a fluke... the percentage of sales volume AWR has over SLS further shows that AWR's quality is just fine... could be improved amongst other things of course) which anyone can tell is a lot stronger due to the amount of metal used and how the force is distributed... anyone who's taken a basic physics class could tell that and need not be an engineer! but it does appear SLS took the minimalist approach and designed everything from scratch on their own, and obviously being a small company, lacked the R&D resources to fully engineer it.... hell I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have an in-house engineer
 
Easy to say after a failure. No one raised this issue when the mount was being released. No one raised the issue when its performance was being praised. It's funny how many people are speaking out about the "poor design" after the fact.
I never raised the issue because I never knew any other mounts besides factory and AWR existed until this thread. I suppose I missed all those threads because I'm not really interested in motor mounts as a mod for my vehicle at this point in time. And yes, it is easy to say anything after the fact.
 
hardly anything they have is their design. its beaus (MAM). i have the cell phone pics of when he made the stuff before sls was even selling protege stuff.

problem is, beau was making dogbone mounts for other cars and while yea those work fine (cause the load is totally different), its not an effective design for our mount cause of the load, as stated many times.

so instead of redesigning it like he shoiuld have he made a bunch and sold them to sls (and the jig).

business is business i guess


no they don't, but at least they could've attempted to copy the bracket design that mazda made (AWR did that, and only 1 failure due to bad welds which was a fluke... the percentage of sales volume AWR has over SLS further shows that AWR's quality is just fine... could be improved amongst other things of course) which anyone can tell is a lot stronger due to the amount of metal used and how the force is distributed... anyone who's taken a basic physics class could tell that and need not be an engineer! but it does appear SLS took the minimalist approach and designed everything from scratch on their own, and obviously being a small company, lacked the R&D resources to fully engineer it.... hell I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have an in-house engineer
 
SLS has sold over 150 front motor mounts so far. 1 breaks and now they are bad!! You guys are amazing. As for the side motor mounts, Eric said they have sold close to 100 and have had 2 people break the bracket and not the mount. 1 breaks and now it's horrible.
Keep inmind that there are many factors that play into the stress that is put on the front motor mount. If your rear and side are blown out, then the front is going to now support the entire motor and it's movement. As for the side motor mount brackets that have broke, the one guy torqued them down so hard that it's cracked the aluminum. The other was from there original design and since was corrected. If installed correctly their mounts are great. My roomate and myself both run SLS mounts and have not had a single problem. Infact there are many people that have not had a single issue. 150 front mount and 1 breaks, is a very good ratio.
Where are the mod's at? Isn't this vendor bashing?

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123628663&highlight=mazda+forum+rules+guidelines
Try keeping all that s*** in mind when one or more of yours breaks for no good reason & NO it's design, mount & manufacturing defect bashing. The sales & support part worked just fine.
 
and you can turn your car into a vibrator! Girls love it! :p
 
I would fire that welder.

Guess I'll have to start carrying my stock mount and a 17mm socket wrench around with me. :(

I wouldn't blame the welder, i'd blame the design. It never looked right to me. It puts too much tension on a small area.

The AWR mount is wedge shaped which spreads out the load.
 
The problems have been fixed. We have sold over 150 side and front motor mounts and have never had a mount break until we brought on a new welder. The issue was due to lack of welding penetration and has now been rectified. Our mounts are guaranteed against defects and we will replace those with them. Since less than a handful where sent out(welded by our new welder) we are more than confident there wil be no further issues.
 
I'm a noob so bare with me, wats purpouse of changing motor mounts? Wat benifits do u get?

If I didn't have an aftermarket engine mount on my car then I would probably hop over into another lane when I shift into 2nd on full throttle. That wouldn't be cool.
 
Ok some people don't like the design and prefer the other two mounts which are on the market. Fair enough.

I can tell you that I am more than satisfied with the two SLS mounts that I have. Both mounts are performing as advertised and I have ZERO regrets about using them.

My right foot and forced induction have yet to break them!
 
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