I haven't physically looked at mine to see how much room there is but from the pictures I think there is some room to add something. I might take mine out this weekend and have a look at it.
Sls Horrifying Product!!!
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I wouldn't say that they are junk. But anyone can look at the front mount and see that there might be problems. These are supposed to be an upgrade. If you put this on and race it will just mess up.
crashkelly
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Ive got to agree with that....Im far from being an engineer and I can tell by looking at that thing that the design couldve been better.
Any design can be made better--it's part of product evolution. Since SLS is backing up their products and honoring their warranty, I don't think there's too much to be worried about.
One or two failures out of however many they sold isn't bad for an aftermarket product. This isn't factory stuff--these aftermarket companies don't have the resources to do full load measurements or structural modeling to optimize their designs. It's a reality you just have to accept when you choose to buy aftermarket products.
One or two failures out of however many they sold isn't bad for an aftermarket product. This isn't factory stuff--these aftermarket companies don't have the resources to do full load measurements or structural modeling to optimize their designs. It's a reality you just have to accept when you choose to buy aftermarket products.
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I completely understand the inherent risk you take with aftermarket parts. Yes, they have backed up their products. This is good. I am only reporting my personal experience just to put it out there so others have it to use as they will. Not trying to sway others. IMO, with my daily driver sport auto, I need nothing more than oems with rr inserts up front so that's what I'm going to stay with. Everyone else will have to determine what's best for them based upon their own needs & set of variables.
So far the product has been great for me, but my concern would be it breaking. The stock mount, when it broke, at least still prevented the engine from going too far in any direction. With this, if it breaks then suddenly you have nothing. I'm just concerned about an MS3 engine mount failure "my engine fell out" type of thread arising.
I'd usually agree with you, but I've seen a couple of side mounts breaking too. These guys haven't been around long enough for this number of failures to fall in to the 'it's ok, 1 in 1000 is probably a fluke' category.
Gotta say, glad I went w/ the RR racing inserts instead of these. They're breaking way too often for me to consider chancing it.
I'm not an engineer! And don't you EVER call me that again!!! lol
But I am a machinist. I've built every thing form car parts to orthopedic implants (hips, knees, shoulders, and heart valves). I do know what I'm talking about.
Bad welding? Perhaps in this case yes.
Overall they must have a good welder because with this mickey mouse design , I'm surprised that more have not broke. With no other gussets and supporting welds..........ouch! I would stay away from these things.
The CNC'd ones that where shown in a previous post are the way it should be done.
Overall they must have a good welder because with this mickey mouse design , I'm surprised that more have not broke. With no other gussets and supporting welds..........ouch! I would stay away from these things.
The CNC'd ones that where shown in a previous post are the way it should be done.
SLS has sold over 150 front motor mounts so far. 1 breaks and now they are bad!! You guys are amazing. As for the side motor mounts, Eric said they have sold close to 100 and have had 2 people break the bracket and not the mount. 1 breaks and now it's horrible.
Keep inmind that there are many factors that play into the stress that is put on the front motor mount. If your rear and side are blown out, then the front is going to now support the entire motor and it's movement. As for the side motor mount brackets that have broke, the one guy torqued them down so hard that it's cracked the aluminum. The other was from there original design and since was corrected. If installed correctly their mounts are great. My roomate and myself both run SLS mounts and have not had a single problem. Infact there are many people that have not had a single issue. 150 front mount and 1 breaks, is a very good ratio.
Where are the mod's at? Isn't this vendor bashing?
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123628663&highlight=mazda+forum+rules+guidelines
Keep inmind that there are many factors that play into the stress that is put on the front motor mount. If your rear and side are blown out, then the front is going to now support the entire motor and it's movement. As for the side motor mount brackets that have broke, the one guy torqued them down so hard that it's cracked the aluminum. The other was from there original design and since was corrected. If installed correctly their mounts are great. My roomate and myself both run SLS mounts and have not had a single problem. Infact there are many people that have not had a single issue. 150 front mount and 1 breaks, is a very good ratio.
Where are the mod's at? Isn't this vendor bashing?
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123628663&highlight=mazda+forum+rules+guidelines
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nobody is bashing the vendor, they are complaining about the design.
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:bs: , I didn't torque s*** down that tight & none of my other mounts are damaged one bit.
I admit I was more than a little "ANGRY" at what happened, but I think I had every right to be. I'm not bashing SLS or saying no one else should buy their stuff. I'm just stating what happened to me, and everyone can draw their own assumptions about the product and whether or not it's safe or worthwhile. I personally would never buy any of their products again, and wouldn't recommend their products to anyone. But that's my opinion, and I have every right to say what I think just like everyone is allowed to say how much they love SLS mounts. I do understand that the welding could be at fault, and perhaps it was a freak accident. I'm in the process of sending back the mount, and HOPEFULLY they see what was wrong, and fix it for future customers. And HOPEFULLY I get a full refund instead of another mount or product...
Maxx Mazda
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Awr Ftw
Well some of us are engineers... LOL
But we aren't bashing the vendor, we're just expressing our concerns about this failure that upon first sight, looks like it could possibly happen to anyone.
pass the peas
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Don't have to be an engineer to recognize that it's not a very good design. Even if the weld never fails, it's going to be an inherently flexible mount by design. Putting a high durometer bushing inside will just make the metal parts flex more. I don't see how this is really an improvement over the stock mount, except that the bushing might be more durable, and the whole thing might be lighter in weight.
Are you kidding? It's a huge improvement over stock. The stock mount is very soft, and allows the engine to move a lot. The difference was night and day for me.
