linuxology
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Do you rotate the tires front to back? Do you do any criscrossing of the tires? I got the original toyo's on this 5.
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The stock Toyos are not directional, so cross-rotation is fine. I find the right side tires wear slightly faster than the left side, so cross-rotation helps with that. Fronts to the back, and rears to opposite side front is what I use on all my cars that aren't staggered fittment (larger ones on the back), or directional. It is by no means required, just what I like to do. Straight front to back rotation is ok too.
On these cars, you get more wear on the inside of the tire when it's on the back, and more wear on the outside when it's on the front. Keep your tires inflated correctly and front to back is the best way to do it. I personally wouldn't cross them unless you think the car is out of balance.
linuxology
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Is 34psi the recommended by forum users? Also when rotating do the TPMS auto adjust? Is 21mm the lugnut size and torque is 80 lbs? Thanks.
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With these systems, the TPMS receiver has no idea where the sensors are. It only knows that 4 sensor IDs are programmed, and present. As you rotate the tires, the system has no idea that anything has changed. The only time you need to re-program them is if one is replaced, or changed as a set (winter tires).
Book spec for the torque is 65-87 ft-lbs, and yes it is a 21mm.
Cold inflation is 34psi - you will get a million opinions on what tire pressure to run. Personally, I run mine at 36psi cold, and my tread wear is dead even.
Book spec for the torque is 65-87 ft-lbs, and yes it is a 21mm.
Cold inflation is 34psi - you will get a million opinions on what tire pressure to run. Personally, I run mine at 36psi cold, and my tread wear is dead even.
linuxology
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I see many are running 215/50/17 tires when they replace them. Does this present any rubbing issues on potholes or bumps? Thanks.
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The OEM Proxies A18's are directional tires so you are pretty much limited to front to back "rotations" unless you get them dismounted and physically swapped on the rims!
It issomething to think about when the time comes to replace them! do you go directional or non-directional tires.
Nope. Not even close.
Nope. Not even close.
No, not directional. Cross rotate as you please. As stated though, not necessary. Having an inside, and outside marked on the tire means that they can only be mounted on the rim one way.
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flatlander937
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Cross rotating has nothing to do with balance... usually tires out of balance in the rear are less easily detected that tires out of balance in the front... so either way by moving tires front to back(crossing or not) you may introduce vibrations into the steering wheel. If so then you'll need to get them balanced.
Cross rotating is a great way to keep the treads wearing evenly. If you ever pay attention to tires that are not rotated... they ALWAYS wear on the trailing edge of every tread block, while the front edge of each tread block is kept sharp. Cross rotating(so that they see both left and right side action regularly) will keep the tread blocks wearing evenly and prevent your car from sounding like a C130 driving down the highway in the future.
I usually cross rotate the rears towards the front, and move the fronts straight back. You can do whatever you want, but if you do this every time(or cross the fronts to the back, and rear straight forward) on a regular basis your tires will see every corner of the car and keep tread wear even.
Just wanted to report my experiences lately. I got a set of BFG G-Force 215/50/17s @ 34,000 mi. I've been rotating them religiously every oil change, so every 5000, although its a bit long compared to my preferred benchmark of 3000 mi. Anyway, last roto, 52K mi, I looked at the tires & felt it was time to flip them on the rims. I planned this when I bought them since I know how bad the inside wear is on the rears, but these are 50K mi tires, so I felt we were OK when the guys at the shop said we should be OK for 1 more rotation. Even though I have a lot of experience, I agreed with him, since the tires that went on the rear looked worn inside, but they had a good amount of inside tread still. Well, 1000 miles later, the RR had almost no tread inside. I had to leave the car alone for another 3 weeks before I could address the problem & by then, Discount Tire wouldn't flip them because of the liability of working on tires that have too little tread. I had to go to a hole-in-the-wall shop to get the rears done at 2X the price Discount did the fronts for, AND I am in the dog house b/c the wife can't take it on a 500 mi interstate trip over the summer.
The takeaway here is to #1, DO NOT get asymmetrical tires for the 5, esp 06-07 & #2, it seems that many brands of tires wear considerably faster on this vehicle than treadwear warranty suggests. I have maybe 7-8000 mi left until they are slicks, so that is barely half the warranty. The Falken Ziexes I pulled off were wearing out in just over 5000 miles. And #3, be prepared to flip the tires over so that you can wear the outside edges evenly so that you don't get caught with tires bald on the inside & full of tread on the outside.
The takeaway here is to #1, DO NOT get asymmetrical tires for the 5, esp 06-07 & #2, it seems that many brands of tires wear considerably faster on this vehicle than treadwear warranty suggests. I have maybe 7-8000 mi left until they are slicks, so that is barely half the warranty. The Falken Ziexes I pulled off were wearing out in just over 5000 miles. And #3, be prepared to flip the tires over so that you can wear the outside edges evenly so that you don't get caught with tires bald on the inside & full of tread on the outside.
