New Intercooler????

[turboge]

Just a quick note, I've finished tuning my E6K on the MSP and have noticed no more of the "heat soak" effect. I am not even using any kind of temperature compensation for fuel or ignition right now and the power never stops being delivered. The stock IC is very efficient for what it is up to a certain extent.

With the addition of this FMIC setup the gains on the top end would be much more significant under higher boost and RPM. Our turbo starts to heat up the charge air quickly after 5500rpm which kills the abillity to run high timing to peak your horsepower out, I expect gains upward of 25whp in the higher RPM when I do my upgrade.

 

[MazdaDryvr]

Ion - Is there any downside to the larger FMIC? Any other parts that need changing to compensate?

 

[iON Performance]

Black Majik MSP - if you look carefully @ the picture, there's a gap on both sides of the intercooler.

Our stage 1 FMIC uses the largest core that'll fit w/o cutting the bumper beam. As well, in the picture shown, it has black silicone hose, so it blends in with the factory grill

turboge - great to hear you got rid of the pig richness Yes you're right, the more boost you run the more power you get from a FMIC set-up @ stock boost levels we saw ~20whp gain with our stage 1 FMIC

MazdaDryvr - there's no real drawbacks to our FMIC upgrade, the only thing is that it's more visible then your stock IC set-up. Nothing needs to be compensated for. For making safe power the FMIC + EBC set at 8psi will give you loads of fun

 

[Black Majik MSP]

Black Majik MSP - if you look carefully @ the picture, there's a gap on both sides of the intercooler.

Our stage 1 FMIC uses the largest core that'll fit w/o cutting the bumper beam. As well, in the picture shown, it has black silicone hose, so it blends in with the factory grill

I know it probably wouldn't be easy, but ideally I'd like a FMIC that filled it up like my friend's WRX:

 

[Elderain]

An intercooler is definetly a costly mod but it will help you safely boost higher and gets rid of that dreaded heat soak that the stock MSP has giving you more power consistently in different weather and driving conditions.....plus it looks cool

I love you I want a FMIC because i wanna look cool too FMIC just screams "i have a turbo look at me!" My intercooler says "Hi, I got picked last in gym class" Its just so cute and small, Id have to be careful if i ever touched it so i dont break it or lose it somewhere

 

[nrcooled]

The FMIC is a great first mod! All FMIC that I have ever seen for any car range from $750-$2000. ION's prices are average. Don't nickle and dime yourself to death with small mods that won't produce as much power.
CAI= 2-3hp
Turbo Timer= pointless (just let you car idle for a min or two after a drive)

I say up the boost to 9psi and stick an exhaust and FMIC on. Those will net you the best gains

When I put my FMIC on my 240sx I saw a these numbers:
Pre FMIC- 195hp 205lb/ft
Post FMIC- 230hp 252lb/ft

If you ask me that is more then average and the SR20DET is almost an identical engine (size wise) to the MSP (FS):
1998cc engine
t25 turbo

If you have the money get the best power/price mods then get the little stuff later

 

[turboge]

Ion,

Whats the measurements on that stage 1 FMIC?

 

[nrcooled]

Here is my Greddy FMIC:
Core dimentions 2ft (w) x 1ft (h)

ignore the damage (just a little off track exploration)

 

[iON Performance]

turboge our stage 1 FMIC uses a 24" (L) x 5.5" (H) x 3.5" core. Our stage two uses a 24" x 12" x 3" core.

 

[YuYuRena]

how would u fit stage 2 fmic under that bumper beam??? or you relocating it slightly?

 

[mili727]

Would the Stage 2 require you to cut the stock bumper beam, or would a new one be supplied?

 

[iON Performance]

YuYuRena & mili727 - the stage two is slightly less wide so that it's mounted @ an angle. It requires the bottom part of the bumper beam to be cut. The beam itself will still be intact and it's original position.

You will not require the use of the stage 2 unless you wanna make more then 300whp +.

The stage 1 is more then capable of handling 300whp.

 

[YuYuRena]

how much to cut?? and how much psi loss is stage 2 compare to stage 1? stage 2 still require the same amount of cutting as stage 1 does too right?

I know you probably already done this, but have you try not cutting the beam and see how much ground clearance are there?? I'm not going to lower my car at all and I can have a little bit less ground clearance if so reqiured.

 

[MSPDAVE125]

You will not require the use of the stage 2 unless you wanna make more then 300whp +.

Guess We'll be talkin again over the winter eh Jack?

By the way my email is down so I haven't been able to write.

Catch ya later.....

 

[spoolinmp3]

I love you I want a FMIC because i wanna look cool too FMIC just screams "i have a turbo look at me!" My intercooler says "Hi, I got picked last in gym class" Its just so cute and small, Id have to be careful if i ever touched it so i dont break it or lose it somewhere

Yeah FMIC are cool

 

[iON Performance]

YuYuRena - if you've looked at your bumper beam, it's like a "U" on it's side. You'd just trim the bottom of the bumper beam enough for the core to clear. The stage 2 will only have 0.5psi more pressure drop then the stage 1 (which was a -0.2psi pressure drop, ie: increase).

The only diff. between stage 1 & 2 are the cores + end tanks. The piping is the same.

If the beam wasn't modified, then the core would have to stick past the plastic (which would have to be cut). Not exactly ideal for parking purposes.

MSPDAVE125 - Glad you're lovin' your stage 1 The 300whp figure is a static figure. If it's being used for road racing and speeds are up, it'll handle car that'll put out ~ 450whp. The threshold for heat-soak to occur will be brought down.

Anyways, you've got the digits, give me a shout whenever you need to.

 

[MazdaDryvr]

so is increasing boost with the stock IC not a good idea?

 

[iON Performance]

MazdaDryvr - you can, however there's a decreasing rate of return for boost : power with the stock set-up.

 

[MazdaDryvr]

so, theoretically, the Ion FMIC would reduce engine temps and therefore extend engine life. Plus the larger rad. Hmm, I may say goodbye to my warranty soon. How long do you plan on stocking these FMIC's?

 

[iON Performance]

MazdaDryvr - actually those results aren't theoretical, those are actual results. We recorded over 40 degree C change in throttle body inlet temps between the stock and our Stage 1 set-up.

Plus you have the option/ability to go with a larger radiator if you so desire.

Your warranty is still valid as long as boost isn't increased. You're not screwing around w/ a mechanical part, you're just making the car more efficient (ie: similar to running synthetic motor oil).

We generally do runs of either 10, 15, 20 or 25 @ a time. So depending on when you decide to get it, we may have a few on hand, or in the process of making more.

As of today, there's 3 left here ready to go [You'd be the 5th Canadian to have this ]