My Mazda 3 vs. New Honda Civic SiR

[Manny Fresh]

This dude in a new civic hatchback was being all cocky and following the path I was cutting through traffic. He kept up, big deal. I figured it was time to see what he could do to me off the line. So we came up to a red light and pulled up to me. He glanced over at me, but I kept my eyes on the prize. I wasn't going to let some cocky kid in his little Civic beat me.

We got off about the same time, but he was no match for me. I eventually let off and let him fly past me. He flew off with his tail tucked between his legs. He sped through the next red light, probably didn't wanna gimme the satisfaction of laughing at him.

Seriously though... should I have won? Civic SiR's have 160 hp(6500 rpm) and 132 lb(5000 rpm). They are much smaller, so should be lighter and faster. I'm no expert, that's just my analysis. I know that there are other factors such as that the factory graded hp isn't necessarily real world hp...

It's possible he was just a crappy driver. I dunno.

The race happened at approximately 1 am going southbound on 75th street and Argyll. A lot of cops down this street, so I'm lucky I didn't get a ticket.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

good kill. About the most damning thing I've read on the new Civic Si is that the editors at Sport Compact Car preferred driving the new Ion Redline over it Your 3 has alot more low end grunt than what that little iVTEC can put out

 

[harrison888]

These 2 car will be a very close match, it all depends on the driver. Civic Si has a much closer gear ratio than our 3s, so it revs faster than the 3s and has a higher rpm (at 55mph, it rev's at about 3K vs the 3s at 55mph revs at about 2.2-2.3K), and yes the 3s has a better low end power but you gotta think about the Civic will be at high rpm all the time.

 

[xtrememps]

Heh, i toasted the a 90's Civic Si from a stop last year in my MSP, boy was he surprised.

 

[harrison888]

Heh, i toasted the a 90's Civic Si from a stop last year in my MSP, boy was he surprised.

How much HP does your MSP has?

 

[xtrememps]

Bone stock (spin)

 

[Mazda3ofKent]

Not to say they are not any good civic driver out there, but alot of them are dumb, ignorant, and think they are the fastes thing on the road

 

[acidbug]

Good kill..

On the streets..it's alwayz a driver's race. B/c conditions are alwayz changing (turns, other cars, uneven pavements.

Where as on the track..it's a straight away..with a nice flat road.

 

[sndsgood]

Not to say they are not any good civic driver out there, but alot of them are dumb, ignorant, and think they are the fastes thing on the road

that could be said about any car driver out there.

as for the cocky kid in the civic, sounds like your being just as cocky as you imagined him as being.


"This dude in a new civic hatchback was being all cocky and following the path I was cutting through traffic. He kept up, big deal"


a good line is a good line, i'd follow an escort through a good line if it got me thru traffic. this isnt being cocky.

"I figured it was time to see what he could do to me off the line."

u looking for a race, cocky.

"He glanced over at me, but I kept my eyes on the prize. I wasn't going to let some cocky kid in his little Civic beat me."

you wouldnt even agnowledge the guys cause u were keeping your eye on the prize? what did you win?


sorry just annoys me when people talk about how someone in another car was thinking they were all that. when the truth is, if you would have stopped and talked to the kid, chances are you were both alike and you could have made a new friend.

 

[Mikey444]

Same thing happened to me a few months ago, this ford SUV was near me at a light, than comes the look, next thing you know I am hitting redline, perfect shifts, he ended up 3 car lengths behind me, had to slow down for the red light, he blew it at over 120 km/h (shocked) All my windows were open and I heard a really disgusting sound from his car as his tranny was going thru the gears.

Anyways, the important thing is that are Mazdas **** almost every other car on the road. And that makes me really happy (nana)

 

[Manny Fresh]

that could be said about any car driver out there.

as for the cocky kid in the civic, sounds like your being just as cocky as you imagined him as being.


"This dude in a new civic hatchback was being all cocky and following the path I was cutting through traffic. He kept up, big deal"


a good line is a good line, i'd follow an escort through a good line if it got me thru traffic. this isnt being cocky.

"I figured it was time to see what he could do to me off the line."

u looking for a race, cocky.

"He glanced over at me, but I kept my eyes on the prize. I wasn't going to let some cocky kid in his little Civic beat me."

you wouldnt even agnowledge the guys cause u were keeping your eye on the prize? what did you win?


sorry just annoys me when people talk about how someone in another car was thinking they were all that. when the truth is, if you would have stopped and talked to the kid, chances are you were both alike and you could have made a new friend.

My experience with asian kids in Civics has been that they are all young, cocky, and ricers. Not my kind of crowd.

Sure I had a good line going, but for him to tail me all the way down kinda annoyed me. Plus this is at 1 in the morning, not much traffic. He was just trying to be an ass and goad me into a race, which he got. I wasn't looking for the race, it came to me. I was just taking my normal path home.

I didn't glance over at him, because I wanted to make sure I beat him. "The Prize" being that I won the race, and the satisfaction that would come from it. Besides, there are a lot of asian kids that'll shoot you if you even look at them the wrong way... could have been a safety issue.

If you knew the kind of kids we had around here, you'd probably have the same attitude. He had a stickered up Civic, but probably didn't have the parts in his car which corresponded to those stickers... way too many of those kids around if you ask me.

Ok, maybe I'm stereotyping, but you can't blame me for being cocky. After all, I beat him in a race, and he just kept on going through the next red light. That tells you how much he wanted to make friends with me.

But, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Thanks for your comments anyways.

 

[jflo]

Anyways, the important thing is that are Mazdas **** almost every other car on the road. And that makes me really happy (nana)

not even close...almost every car ? it's fun to believe that until you're beaten unsuspectingly. watch out and don't be too confident

 

[jflo]

My experience with asian kids in Civics has been that they are all young, cocky, and ricers. Not my kind of crowd.

Sure I had a good line going, but for him to tail me all the way down kinda annoyed me. Plus this is at 1 in the morning, not much traffic. He was just trying to be an ass and goad me into a race, which he got. I wasn't looking for the race, it came to me. I was just taking my normal path home.

I didn't glance over at him, because I wanted to make sure I beat him. "The Prize" being that I won the race, and the satisfaction that would come from it. Besides, there are a lot of asian kids that'll shoot you if you even look at them the wrong way... could have been a safety issue.

If you knew the kind of kids we had around here, you'd probably have the same attitude. He had a stickered up Civic, but probably didn't have the parts in his car which corresponded to those stickers... way too many of those kids around if you ask me.

Ok, maybe I'm stereotyping, but you can't blame me for being cocky. After all, I beat him in a race, and he just kept on going through the next red light. That tells you how much he wanted to make friends with me.

But, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Thanks for your comments anyways.

this is the kind of mentality that'll get you into where that "asian kid in a civic" is. safety issue ? safety isn't just the person you're racing and the other people around you. it's also yourself. sure, that guy in the civic was being a jerk and tailing you, but that doesn't mean he was cocky. you were cocky enough to race him, even though you knew you were in an area with a lot of cops. nobody's blaming you for being cocky, you really brought it upon yourself when you kept your eyes on the prize.

 

[Airman Jack]

Why can't people just find the nearest track and attend an open lapping day? Fast AND safe at the same time?! Heaven forbid! My brother in law hooked me up with one at Shannonville just east of Belleville, Ontario and DAMN was it fun! I'll post some pics tonight when I get home if you guys want. (of a car that is strikingly similar to mine.. but of course, is not mine..)

 

[splitvizion]

I have a good one. I was on the highway two nights ago, just cruizin along when a ford Escort Es hatch pulled next to me and the guy and his friends were edging me on to race them. Pointing,laughing(for what I don't know) you know the deal. So I gave him what he wanted, droped it down to fourth and just completely torched him. So I eventually slow down and here he comes blows past me laughing, so again, dropped it down into fourth and blew by him again even with his full speed run at me. It just kills me how someone could think that a car like that is cappable of beating a car like our Mz3. I mean, this thing was beat. The kid actually lives around my town. I actually have a pic of the killed car because it was so hilarious to me what he has done to this car.

 

[splitvizion]

Tell me that s*** ain't funny.

yeeeeaaaahhh, OK

 

[timba24]

My experience with asian kids in Civics has been that they are all young, cocky, and ricers. Not my kind of crowd.

Sure I had a good line going, but for him to tail me all the way down kinda annoyed me. Plus this is at 1 in the morning, not much traffic. He was just trying to be an ass and goad me into a race, which he got. I wasn't looking for the race, it came to me. I was just taking my normal path home.

I didn't glance over at him, because I wanted to make sure I beat him. "The Prize" being that I won the race, and the satisfaction that would come from it. Besides, there are a lot of asian kids that'll shoot you if you even look at them the wrong way... could have been a safety issue.

If you knew the kind of kids we had around here, you'd probably have the same attitude. He had a stickered up Civic, but probably didn't have the parts in his car which corresponded to those stickers... way too many of those kids around if you ask me.

Ok, maybe I'm stereotyping, but you can't blame me for being cocky. After all, I beat him in a race, and he just kept on going through the next red light. That tells you how much he wanted to make friends with me.

But, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Thanks for your comments anyways.

damn I dont even know what to say about the stereotypes in this one but s*** I am half asian so does that mean I am a dangerous cocky ricer? um no ethnicity, creed, background has nothing to do with it so it shouldnt even be mentioned

 

[goldwing2000]

I have a good one. I was on the highway two nights ago, just cruizin along when a ford Escort Es hatch pulled next to me and the guy and his friends were edging me on to race them... ...I actually have a pic of the killed car because it was so hilarious to me what he has done to this car.

:wtf: (boom07)

 

[goldwing2000]

damn I dont even know what to say about the stereotypes in this one but s*** I am half asian so does that mean I am a dangerous cocky ricer? um no ethnicity, creed, background has nothing to do with it so it shouldnt even be mentioned

Maybe things are different in Alberta? (dunno)

I know there are no Asian gangs around here. Even if there were random Asian kids walking around causing trouble, they'd have a helluva time overpowering the black gangs and crackheads.

Not to mention the gun-toting self-defense vigilante-types. *ahem* (naughty)

 

[Manny Fresh]

No offense, I'm of asian ethnicity too. And the violence that has happened here over the past 5 or so years for the most part has been linked to asian gangs. They even went at each other during a wedding for ***** sake. I've had friends involved in this sort of stuff, so I know what type of things to look for... clothing, tatoo, cars, etc.

Not saying that the dude I raced was one, it was just a possibility.

It was a good race, and we were both being cocky. Let's just leave it at that.