sundevilMP5
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i dunno about looks for me...i said it before and i'll say it again...the design of the TT is great...the MSP is aggressive but still to ordinary
Audi TT vs. MSP
- Thread starter Lawerence
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If it was the front wheel drive version maybe the pick up is crap, but you can't tell me that it won't take off like a rocket in the quatro. And you must be crazy if you think the MSP looks better than the TT. Oh yeah, the price isn't that bad either, although you have to get a used TT to match the MSP price. You can easily find a 2000 or 2001 TT for $19,000 to $22,000.
PhyschoMP3
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Um Sorry but someone said an Integra LS is fast? I raced my brother 3 times and won him every time! I have a MP3. SO does that make a mp3 a powerful car? Nope. The Mp3 is weak it needs another 100 hp and I'll be happy.
PhyschoMP3
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i want to do what my friend did.... Integra or Civic Hb with a B20 block and a Vtec Head! That s*** is fast!!!! My brother is doing LSR with direct port next month. THen my car is gonna be so slow Its gonna suck. I hate honda blocks there tooo damn good! AHH I need to get a gsx so I can beat him muahaha
tritonheat1
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PhyschoMP3 said:
Not dissing you man and not to get off topic, But i doubt that our MP3's with a CAI would take a Integra LS. The LS's can keep up with the Civic SI's, and our pour little MP3 would only keep up to an SI from tha start till the end of first gear, then all we will be seeing is the Si's taillights. Maybe you did beat your friends's LS who knows, But all i'm saying is if the MP3's motor is so weak then why are you people trying to soup up the car or even going F/I. I see the point you are making that the MP3 or MSP can outrun some car's but never said that it had more potential than any other car. FYI please quit having a tunnel vision and putting words in your post that sound like there coming from me or any other member that's off Topic.
big_ben said:
Ok the guy definitely nailed it in the corner. HIs car squatted down, and the body was rolling, exhaust note was definitely WOT.
I just think he couldnt rake the corner as fast as I could. I was definitely coming out of it much faster.
again Im not saying it was the 225hp one, but I know it had a dual exhaust. And I know he was trying...and I know I won
I dont really know how fast the TTs are, but one hitting a 14.3 would have to be with a great driver IMO.
No onw really knows how fast MSPs are either, we only have mag times. Which I have seen from 14.9@93 to 15.5@90...
This car feels faster than my specV did, and I ran a 15.2 with that stock. Honestely when I go to the track Im hoping for high 14s.
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tritonheat1
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I totally agree with lawerence in most cases, but i honestly doubt that the Audi TT would run close in comparison to a WRX. The audi TT should be as the same as the Mazdaspeed in performance wise.
FASTSPECV said:
I totally agree with lawerence in most cases, but i honestly doubt that the Audi TT would run close in comparison to a WRX. The audi TT should be as the same as the Mazdaspeed in performance wise.
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I don't know if everyone is seeing the big picture here. This thread was not about which car was better, or faster. The thead starter simply to tell about an encouter in which the Mazdaspeed out handled a TT on a corner (which I have not trouble believing). That's it. I know for a fact that the TT is faster. Does that mean that it will outhandle a MSP. Nope. Not without some mods. Even the AWD version 225 HP (With dual exhaust) will get out handled on a corner by a MSP. AWD does not account for body roll, just traction.
FASTSPECV said:
I don't know if everyone is seeing the big picture here. This thread was not about which car was better, or faster. The thead starter simply to tell about an encouter in which the Mazdaspeed out handled a TT on a corner (which I have not trouble believing). That's it. I know for a fact that the TT is faster. Does that mean that it will outhandle a MSP. Nope. Not without some mods. Even the AWD version 225 HP (With dual exhaust) will get out handled on a corner by a MSP. AWD does not account for body roll, just traction.
Not necessarily. If the car is only front wheel drive, as the body leans, one of the drive wheels will lift slightly off the ground. Then one wheel has less traction, and the wheel with the least resistence becomes the drive wheel. If you have AWD, this doesn't happen. And just because the MSP has an LSD, trust me, it will still do this a little. The LSD that's in the MSP isn't that great from what I've read. It's just torque biased, it's not locked.
The Audi TT is a MUCH better car than the MSP. I can't even believe you guys are even comparing it to the TT. You should hold your heads in shame. HELLO, one is a MAZDA, one is an AUDI. End of discussion.
The Audi TT is a MUCH better car than the MSP. I can't even believe you guys are even comparing it to the TT. You should hold your heads in shame. HELLO, one is a MAZDA, one is an AUDI. End of discussion.
big_ben said:
Um I dont think anyone is downing audi. They are great cars, very nice inside and out. In fact I used to own a 98' A6 2.8, it was a great car except for some small annoyances and it cost alot to fix.
No ones saying the car isnt nice, but it just couldnt take the turn as fast as me. All wheel drive doesnt always equate to the best handling.
I've beeen looking at some slips from TT owners, it looks like they run mid 14s in the 1/4 mile. So i dont see whats so unbelievable(scratch) stranger has happened...
You know what, I am so tired of hearing people say, "oh, I've seen his slips." Who cares abut 1/4 mile time except for dumb hick rednecks in rusty camaros and old trucks. HELLO, your car was built to handle, not drag race. I'm not attacking you individually, I see lots of people saying this. If you really wanted to drag race, you bought the wrong car. You could have had a faster car that was meant for drag racing for a lot less money.
I totally agree. The MSP is a beautiful car, but put it next to the Audi TT, and the MSP looks like a big pile of steaming vomit. If I had the choice of the two, I'd pick the TT and just fix it up with new suspension and engine mods. The 180hp TT has the K03 turbo, all you need to do to make it the 225hp is change to the K04 and put on the new exhaust and you have the 225hp version.
If the opportunity presents itself, I would get the new STI. Can you say MP3 sold.
