Zymol?

[rmrf]

Does anybody use Zymol for MZ3? Any pros/cons?
Thanks

 

[Status]

Zymol is very overrated from what I've read.

Meguiar's or Zaino Brothers seems to be the most popular. My preference is Zaino Bro's, they have a nice line of products.

Here's a wax test that I saw doing some comparisons.
http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc

 

[rmrf]

Zymol is very overrated from what I've read.

Meguiar's or Zaino Brothers seems to be the most popular. My preference is Zaino Bro's, they have a nice line of products.

Here's a wax test that I saw doing some comparisons.
http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc

Thanks. I'll check it.

 

[RyanJayG]

Zaino lasts longer... try it

 

[ZippityZoomZoom]

Zaino is really nice. Works much better than the Zymol I use on my beater car.

 

[dulog]

Personally I have no experience with Zymol products yet. I thought I'd put my 2 cents in on this anyway though because with all the hundreds of procucts out there I think sometimes there's some misunderstanding about what purpose some of them serve. I really don't subscribe to the notion though that there is one best product, or for that matter brand, for all situations. In my opinion what you need depends on your car's paint condition, environmental and driving circumstances, color, what you're trying to achieve, budget, the ammount of time you have to maintain the finish and the tools you have available to you, so there isn't one miracle product/brand that's best for everyones needs.

 

[Mike72771]

Zymol stinks. It left a haze on my paint and it only lasted through about three washes. I would not recomend it.

 

[rmrf]

Personally I have no experience with Zymol products yet. I thought I'd put my 2 cents in on this anyway though because with all the hundreds of procucts out there I think sometimes there's some misunderstanding about what purpose some of them serve. I really don't subscribe to the notion though that there is one best product, or for that matter brand, for all situations. In my opinion what you need depends on your car's paint condition, environmental and driving circumstances, color, what you're trying to achieve, budget, the ammount of time you have to maintain the finish and the tools you have available to you, so there isn't one miracle product/brand that's best for everyones needs.

Is the "cleaner wax" or "instant shine" products better for the new car than another?

 

[Newf]

with a black car

no question, ZAINO.

 

[dulog]

Is the "cleaner wax" or "instant shine" products better for the new car than another?

Not sure what you mean by "instant shine" products...

A cleaner wax is designed to be a easy to use and time saving product for the general public. In the typical auto parts store or auto section of a target or wal-mart most of the waxes available are some kind of cleaner wax. They are designed to combine the polishing and waxing steps. Think of them as products that are decent at doing a few things at once, but don't excel at any one thing. The cleaners are usually light solvents and are pretty non-abrasive. They won't be as effective at removing swrils and scrathes as products meant specifically for that. Likewise, they won't provide as much protection and durability as many of the non clenaer waxes or sealants. I don't think cleaner waxes are necessarily bad, most do a decent job considering all they are trying to accomplish. If don't have a lot of time or money a good cleaner wax would definately be better than nothing.

How's the condition of your paint? Did the dealer install some compliementary swirls or light scrathes by trying to wash your car? Water spots from sitting out on the lot? Take a careful look at it in strong light and let us know how things look and maybe we can tell where to go from there.

 

[dulog]

with a black car

no question, ZAINO.

I respectfully disagree. With a black or darker colored car the right prep and detailing technique are going to be the deciding factor in a good looking car. Zaino has it's attributes -- great durability for sure. However, without the right prep or understanding of the purpose different products have people can get really mixed up and disappointed.. Look at that 'test' on the nsx site -- they use the word polish and wax interchangeably like they are the same thing. Things like that make it sound everything is a one step world so you should decide products by brand alone and not learn more about the purpose different things have. Take this guy for example:
http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43172&highlight=zaino

Would be nice if there was just one thing we all could apply to fix any paint problem, protect against the elements, provide great color depth, reflection and a nice silky wet look all at once. I'm not convinced there is yet.

 

[ZippityZoomZoom]

Okay, waxing is not some mysterious science. Just read the directions, use quality applicators, common sense and quality car soap. Following the directions seems to be the hard part for many. Meguiar's NXT tech wax and Eagle's Nano wax are also great.

 

[dulog]

Okay, waxing is not some mysterious science. Just read the directions, use quality applicators, common sense and quality car soap. Following the directions seems to be the hard part for many. Meguiar's NXT tech wax and Eagle's Nano wax are also great.

This is great advice and puts things in perspective much better than what I said. However, I think the common sense and follow direction things goes out the window when people get all excited from hearing how great some brand is. Post a few shiney pics and they're sold. That's most likely what happened to that guy saying Z6 made it look **** on the paint. He had probably been told you couldn't go wrong with that Zaino. Well, maybe it's not quite that simple and thought free. Also, what's common sense to you may not be so clear to many. You see alot of people let their car go unwashed all winter since common sense to them says it will just get dirty relatively soon. Or you see people scrubbing down their cars w/ the bubble brush at the quarter wash w/ no regard to what shape that brush is in and have no clue it can easily scratch up their car. Many people learn the hard way about car care and the hype around certain products helps make that possible.

 

[memo79]

I bought a used '94 miata in 2002. It had waterspots all over it, and no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get them off. I washed, waxed, rewashed, waxed again, and nothing. I tried "cleaner" waxes, and no results. My neighbor had a 90 BMW, and the paint looked like new. She recommended I use Liquid Glass. Now, at first I was kinda sceptical cause it came in the same kind of can that turpentine/paint thinner come in, and it had a warning about containing petroleum distillates. But once I tried this stuff, WHOA!!! Water spots gone with almost no work. Just spread it on, waited a bit for it to dry, then buffed it off. After a few coats over about a month, some guy pointed out that my car had some dents in it. I wife replied with "What the hell do you expect? It's a 94" The dude came back with "You're ******' kidding me!! That paint looks new!" And it did. 'cept for the little dents. Then I took a Clay Bar to it, and re-applied the Liquid Glass. You could set a Buffing cloth on the hood, and it would just slide down the hood on it's own.
IMO, this was some really good s***!! It's not available to me now, cause I nobody in Alaska distributes it, and it can't be shipped up here. So that sucks. But the only place I ever found it at was Pep Boys. It's in a gold can with a red corvette stingray on the front. 17.99. Not cheap, but well worth it.

 

[Acerone]

If you like Zymol try Zymol Japon wax but you will have better luck with Finish First Polish with your Mazda3. It will make the finish so slippery nothing will stick.

www.finishfirstpolish.com
www.zymol.com