XEDE Engine Management System Available Soon!

[tsunami]

yeah a 3psi pressure loss through an intercooler to me doesn't seem that bad from the reading i have done (corky bells bible, and the whole garrett site) its not the most efficient out there but for stock its reasonable.... as long as the air coming out the other end is denser (cooler) then its doing a reasonable job with that pressure loss....

 

[Anon Y Mous]

any chance we can discard the MAF and run MAP only with this?

any word yet about the possibility of AWD control with this? I'd like something to transfer 50-85% of the power to my rear wheels! Nothing like seeing a RWD burnout in a mazda6.

 

[tsunami]

uhhh you will need a whole new drivetrain to put power to your rear wheels.. and b/c a mazda6 and mazda3 don't share the same frame you can't just switch them over.... so you would have to custom make something or re-engineer the 6 drive line... either way your looking at some serious $$

 

[Captain KRM P5]

uhhh you will need a whole new drivetrain to put power to your rear wheels.. and b/c a mazda6 and mazda3 don't share the same frame you can't just switch them over.... so you would have to custom make something or re-engineer the 6 drive line... either way your looking at some serious $$

he owns a mazdaspeed6 actually

 

[tsunami]

oh lol... fill out your profile man!!!!! i was wondering how the hell you could go from asking about maf/map control to putting awd control in a ms3... phew makes so much more sense now...

 

[Captain KRM P5]

any chance we can discard the MAF and run MAP only with this?

any word yet about the possibility of AWD control with this? I'd like something to transfer 50-85% of the power to my rear wheels! Nothing like seeing a RWD burnout in a mazda6.

No. The Xede runs off of particular stock sensors. With the exception of the 1.6L Miata, everything runs off of the MAF & o2 sensor. It is a more accurate signal for flow and temp on this car. The MAF located in the MS3 is not restrictive in any way. It is bolted to a flange on the air tube. It is probably the best MAF meter used by Mazda. The reason the MS3 uses the MAP is because the stock ECU makes corrections in fueling based off it. So in order to control the ECU well enough (and to make enough power), it is necessary to control both MAF and MAP signals.

If a MAP sensor is used by itself it is necessary to use a MAT (manifold air temp) sensor as well.

 

[Anon Y Mous]

I see. I guess I could've answered my own question if I had thought about it long enough. The reason I wanted to ditch the MAF was to keep it from maxing out like the MSPs do. This own't be an issue if the XEDE is handling fuel/timing/boost duties anyway.

 

[dread]

so once xede gets the correct harness would I be able to just unplug this thing when I go to the dealer. Would they be able to trace it if they read the ecu.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

wired in or plugged in the dealer would not have a clue this was there. unlike other systems this does not "hard write" new code to the ECU itself.

 

[benzo]

So the xede is a pretty reliable piece of equiptment then?

 

[Captain KRM P5]

So the xede is a pretty reliable piece of equiptment then?

absolutely, would not sell it to the community in good conscience otherwise

 

[got_titan]

still shooting for end of jan on plug n play??

 

[Captain KRM P5]

still shooting for end of jan on plug n play??

as soon as mazda or an electronics company can supply BEGi with the harnesses it will be PnP.

 

[Pololo_MS3]

I had a 1.6L Miata with a Greddy turbo but will ALL the electronics from Flyin Miata(Link ECU, MAT, MAP sensor, Keypad) I know what you guys mean about "take your time" to hook up all your connections. My car was running 12 PSI at all times and I never had an issue with the car breaking down. Not only did I solder every single ballast resistor + connectors but I also cramped them while adding anti-static and moisture resistant covers. Overall this turbo install took me about 120 man hours

The way I see it is: "reliability of your car is directly proportional to the level of detail"

I see the XEDE no different from the Link ECU, except that it is a step between a FULL programmable ECU and a piggyback ECU.

I also waited and waited for the COBB to "crack" the RX8 ECU but once my RX8 got totalled, I decided to get me the MS3 and I am so happy to see these tuners working in the MS3.

I might stop at BEGI one of these days and see how this "P&P" can be achieved.

Carlos
ps: My first post on this forum but been with Mazdas for quite some time

 

[Nutari]

I had a 1.6L Miata with a Greddy turbo but will ALL the electronics from Flyin Miata(Link ECU, MAT, MAP sensor, Keypad) I know what you guys mean about "take your time" to hook up all your connections. My car was running 12 PSI at all times and I never had an issue with the car breaking down. Not only did I solder every single ballast resistor + connectors but I also cramped them while adding anti-static and moisture resistant covers. Overall this turbo install took me about 120 man hours

The way I see it is: "reliability of your car is directly proportional to the level of detail"

I see the XEDE no different from the Link ECU, except that it is a step between a FULL programmable ECU and a piggyback ECU.

I also waited and waited for the COBB to "crack" the RX8 ECU but once my RX8 got totalled, I decided to get me the MS3 and I am so happy to see these tuners working in the MS3.

I might stop at BEGI one of these days and see how this "P&P" can be achieved.

Carlos
ps: My first post on this forum but been with Mazdas for quite some time

Thats the way I see it. If you are a true enthusiast, you will take the time to do things the right way.

The only thing from stopping BEGi from making the XEDE plug and play is a lack of parts. No one has the harnesses they need.

 

[benzo]

The way I see it is: "reliability of your car is directly proportional to the level of detail"

I see the XEDE no different from the Link ECU, except that it is a step between a FULL programmable ECU and a piggyback ECU.

I cant agree more with you. My brother has a fully built truck with all the goodies and I see what kind of problems he has with his. He has blown the motor 2 times. Yeah that truck will do the quarter in about 11, the truck weights in at about 5k lbs. Thats movin if you ask me. But the issue is reliablity. I really dont want to go the full programmable or turbo upgrades cause then you will have to go that route. So the main question is what is the level of detail to this piggyback? I can run 290whp without having any issues? If so count me in. Is there some sort of option we have if we want to upgrade the turbo to a slightly bigger one and still keep this piggyback control unit?

 

[Captain KRM P5]

I cant agree more with you. My brother has a fully built truck with all the goodies and I see what kind of problems he has with his. He has blown the motor 2 times. Yeah that truck will do the quarter in about 11, the truck weights in at about 5k lbs. Thats movin if you ask me. But the issue is reliablity. I really dont want to go the full programmable or turbo upgrades cause then you will have to go that route. So the main question is what is the level of detail to this piggyback? I can run 290whp without having any issues? If so count me in. Is there some sort of option we have if we want to upgrade the turbo to a slightly bigger one and still keep this piggyback control unit?

It has run 290 rwhp for one month with no issues. Owner of the car posts on mazda 3 forums regularly. In fact, his wife just sold the corvette to drive this one. The more cars we dyno, the more maps we have. Eventually we will have maps for all aftermarket parts. The Xede on this application still has lots of room to grow. So any aftermarket upgrade can easily be supported with the Xede. Its a misnomer of sorts to refer to this as strictly a 'piggyback' system due to its range of tunability compared to some less capable systems saddled with that title. The XEDE will have no problem handling a larger turbo.

 

[benzo]

So if I go with the xede and lets say further down the road i want that turbo kit that is avaliable all i have to do is reprogram the xede with some new software and away we go. The next question is how do i do the download. do i have to do dyno tuning or is something i download from xede and put it into the xede and away we go again with having fun? Sorry for all the crazy questions, I just need some instructions on how this stuff works.

 

[Anon Y Mous]

hopefully some early adaptors like 4drhotrod and myself will have tuning made for mods. These files will be available online for download. Then it's just a matter of uploading them to your xede.

very simple.

 

[4DRHTRD]

I can't tell you had bad I need this YESTERDAY. With the ATP kit and my custom IC I'm getting fuel cut, only way to fix it is to go back to my stock IC and lose 3 PSI due to the core efficiency difference. This fixes the fuel cut but I'm sure kills a ton of power.