SuperProtege5
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- 2004 Mazda 3 2.3
I read that article and some of the comments below it and couldn't help but get livid with the stupidity of people and the random things they say without so much as a simple fact check.
why are 4 wheel disc brakes a ridiculous thought? the protege had 4 wheel disc and was offered for 16k... the 2.5L motor would not have to be developedd as it is pre existing. all that would be needed would be mounts right? bluetooth can be added for cheap but never would because mazdaspeed only adds upgrades for performance not luxury. 16 inch wheels were also on the proteges for 16k.... forced induction is not all that expensive. just look at the price of the msp when it was released. this is all very possible.
Also from a point of view, would you buy a vxr corsa or mazda 2, sorry but if i had the cash, the new corsa vxr looks damn good, the market for hot hatches is way to full and mazda being a new comer would't do it with the big boys who been there a while, sorry
Chris
While I still love the idea of a MS2 I still think most of you guys have your heads in the clouds. Four-wheel disc brakes? Forced induction? 2.5L motor? 16 in. wheels? Bluetooth?! Add one or more of those and you put a potential MS2 well into the $20k+ range. This puts a MS2 well into the price range of a 3, which will have similar HP, TQ and MPG numbers. Also, the Fiat Abarth, Veloster Turbo, Cooper 2, etc. you all have been comparing a potential MS2 to are all easily $25k+.
It would definitely be a niche car and based on Mazda's current financial issues I don't see this happening anytime soon.
But otherwise I agree -- if there was 2 with the same price as 3, approx. same power and same amenities, most people would probably pick the bigger 3.
A MS2 would be a niche car regardless. Wouldn't it?
Why would one assume that if the Mazda 3 costs the same amount as a MS2 that one would buy the Mazda 3 instead? The Mazda 3 is bigger in size then the Mazda 2. I specifically want a small hot hatch. So i would not buy a Mazda 3 over a MS2. Size and value of car don't go hand in hand to me.
The problem is you, and the rest of us, are part of a small online community of enthusiasts; a minority. The economics of a MS2 just wouldn't make sense to Mazda, who is currently having a bit of a financial crisis. The average American is looking for the most he/she can get for the least amount of money. 80% of Americans will not purchase a small car if they can get a larger one with similar power and economy for the same price (i.e. if you put a 3 engine in a 2). The point of my posts are while I'd love to see a MS2 it would not be a good idea for Mazda to build one.I'm the guy that would buy the smaller MS2.![]()
The problem is you, and the rest of us, are part of a small online community of enthusiasts; a minority. The economics of a MS2 just wouldn't make sense to Mazda, who is currently having a bit of a financial crisis. The average American is looking for the most he/she can get for the least amount of money. 80% of Americans will not purchase a small car if they can get a larger one with similar power and economy for the same price (i.e. if you put a 3 engine in a 2). The point of my posts are while I'd love to see a MS2 it would not be a good idea for Mazda to build one.
I have a speed3 and a new mazda 2. Personaly I would love to see mazda do something with the two. weather it be a turbo version of the 1.5 or the monster they took to sema with the 2.3 from the speed. Mazda if your listening make it happen!!
But otherwise I agree -- if there was 2 with the same price as 3, approx. same power and same amenities, most people would probably pick the bigger 3.
I'm the guy that would buy the smaller MS2.![]()
If it came as a coupe then yes.
100% i would put myself into debt to own one haha.
if its rear wheel drive or all wheel drive then i will buy it.
RWD would be an even bigger pipe dream.All wheel drive?! You're dreaming! haha