WOMP protege supercharger project

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yeah, I run 93 myself but will tune for 91 since I know some areas can only get 91 max.

just fyi, some of th guys on a UK board say they're pump gas is 96regular 98medium and 100premium. It's also against the law to modify your car any!! What a friggin waste!!

This supercharger will not require a break in of any kind. They are all hand built by powerdyne and tested before coming to me. Then I tear them back down and re-clock everything so it's positioned correctly for the install. All you've got to do is fire it up and make sure the belt is tight.
 
Super Matty P said:
yeah, I run 93 myself but will tune for 91 since I know some areas can only get 91 max.

just fyi, some of th guys on a UK board say they're pump gas is 96regular 98medium and 100premium. It's also against the law to modify your car any!! What a friggin waste!!

This supercharger will not require a break in of any kind. They are all hand built by powerdyne and tested before coming to me. Then I tear them back down and re-clock everything so it's positioned correctly for the install. All you've got to do is fire it up and make sure the belt is tight.
I don't believe they go by octane in the UK....it's a different measurement system IIRC. I can't recall what it's called but the numbers are higher for the corresponding octane rating here in the US. It's the same ol' octane and more expensive over in europe.
 
xtrememps said:
I don't believe they go by octane in the UK....it's a different measurement system IIRC. I can't recall what it's called but the numbers are higher for the corresponding octane rating here in the US. It's the same ol' octane and more expensive over in europe.


I'm just going by what they told me on this UK forum. Although if they were running 100octane it would partially explain why they're payig $4.80/gallon. I pay about $5.25/gallon for race fuel here.
 
Nope, it's the same crap we get more or less. The U.S. just has way more supply/reserves so it's cheaper for us. I believe we also subsidie the cost too.

I just asked jersey_emt, they're called rons which explains the higher numbers.
 
Yeah I've always kinda wondered why prices in europe are so damn expensive and yet they still make cars that guzzle gas just as bad as some here in the US. Crazy s***.
 
Hey matty i was just wondering if u knew how u were gonna skane the SC outlet piping to the TB? Since the outlet is facing straight down.
 
Is there a way to make a "ghetto-style" A/C where there's an intake outside/under the car that uses the stock A/C tubes? So that air flows into the car once you start moving.
 
Prodigy said:
Is there a way to make a "ghetto-style" A/C where there's an intake outside/under the car that uses the stock A/C tubes? So that air flows into the car once you start moving.
Yeah, that would be called the vent system. Keep the fan off, and leave it on fresh air instead of recirc - then hit the highway at about 60, you'll feel it. Switch back to recirc to feel the difference.

Otherwise I suppose you could get a sawzall and have some fun!
 
Rism said:
Hey matty i was just wondering if u knew how u were gonna skane the SC outlet piping to the TB? Since the outlet is facing straight down.


what does the word "skane" mean?? The outlet on the SC is 3" OD and I'll be adding a 4ply silicone reducer from 3"-2.5" I'm then mandrel bending One solid piece of brushed aluminum from the outlet to the MAF. Then from the MAF a small piece to the TB.

After much discussion with other local fabricators we've decided it would be much better to keep the Inlet as large as possible since the compressor outlet will be already reducing piping size it'll be easier to manage the flow through the MAF instead of having transitions up and down on both sides of the blower we'll just have them on the compressed side. Should sound REAL mean under boost.
 
Prodigy said:
Is there a way to make a "ghetto-style" A/C where there's an intake outside/under the car that uses the stock A/C tubes? So that air flows into the car once you start moving.


What Micah said. the little black grate in front of your windshield will feed you outside air just as cracking the window an inch would.
 
Super Matty P said:
what does the word "skane" mean?? The outlet on the SC is 3" OD and I'll be adding a 4ply silicone reducer from 3"-2.5" I'm then mandrel bending One solid piece of brushed aluminum from the outlet to the MAF. Then from the MAF a small piece to the TB.

After much discussion with other local fabricators we've decided it would be much better to keep the Inlet as large as possible since the compressor outlet will be already reducing piping size it'll be easier to manage the flow through the MAF instead of having transitions up and down on both sides of the blower we'll just have them on the compressed side. Should sound REAL mean under boost.
I meant what path will the piping take?
 
how much horsepower can our transmissions handle? or are the trannys differnet on each mp3 p5 and regular protege?
 
trannys are the same except for the MSP which has a factory LSD, stiffer clutch and thicker axles.


Hmm, RISM, I'm not much for 3D art on a pc but I'll say that the piping will take a 90* bend from the blower and run parallel to the radiator/engine until it gets to the #4 cylinder it'll take another 90* bend up shortly to the MAF....from the maf it'll go straight to another 90* bend...

very simple, very smooth flow. the inlet will basically curve slightly away from the header at about 15-20* and then take anothwer slight dip under the upper rad hose where the filter will be mounted. I'm interested in seeing how much aluminum this takes because I may just run it in the fender well like a CAI since people seem to be asking for that.
 
This may be a foolish question, but, rather than ditching the AC compressor all together for this set up does anyone have any thoughts on running the compressor off of a variable speed electric motor (regulated to spin at the stock rate according to engine RPM) and mounting it else-ware in the engine bay? I know it sounds far fetched, and I know that spinning the compressor via electric motor would be very inefficient as compared to running it off of a belt (I'm sure it would require the use of a higher output alternator). Im just sort of grasping at straws here because I like the way this WOMP SC kit is taking shape, but I cant give up my AC.

Im certainly not suggesting that this Frankenstein AC set up should be part of the SC kit, just wondering if it would be possible.
 
the problem with something like this is that there are numerous pieces involved in your HVAC system. If you were to mount your AC compressor on the driversside engine bay and run the compressor off an electric motor you would need all new plumbing for the ac as well. These have to be high pressure lines and usually these cannot be the soft bendable kind that you'd need. Someone would have to make you pre-bent hard-formed lines. I'm sure it can be done but it would not be economical at all.

I had gone as far as to see if I would be able to make a supercharger pulley that was also a PS-pump pulley. basically it wuld be double wide and the blowe would be pun off the ps-pump. There are numerous reasons why this didn't work. Space and mounting position being the biggest.
 
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