why is there a street racing section?

[tritonheat1]

(omg)

You really must have a anal problem, or r just uptight!!!!! LOL dude seriously u take wrong things into consideration, i bet alot of people get ta ya!!! i'm sorry i mean TO YOU!!! LOL ur 2 funny

 

[D-rock240]

I voted to keep it open. I don't street race and I don't condone it. That being said, why should we remove the thread because "maybe an immature 16 year old will see the posts and that will make him decide to do it." If they are that mindless that they can be swayed that easily, maybe hollywood should stop making the FandF movies. Those are ten times more likely to encourage street racing than some threads here. You have to draw a line between making society "kid-safe" and parents doing a better job of, um, PARENTING!

 

[Witchdoktor]

If they are that mindless that they can be swayed that easily, maybe hollywood should stop making the FandF movies. Those are ten times more likely to encourage street racing than some threads here.

valid point. but one could argue that's just an excuse to not do anything. let hollywood or others deal with their conscience, if you can affect even just one person then do it, make that difference.

 

[Crazy D]

Its a very interesting subject; yet the unessary comments and trash talking only shows the lack of understanding to find a resolve or a nutral solution to this matter. (Thats the intention of the thread isn't it ?) On that note it gives the "guess" or "young drivers" out there to take the subject and/or thread as a joke. There is both sides to a coin; do we eliminate a thread full of ego driven drivers that satisfy thier adrenaline as you once did or do ? Or do we leave the thread and monitor such to insure such individuals are aware that "we" or not all in that matter agree with such actions for X or Y reason ?

I don't agree with street racing due to my own personal experience, eliminating the thread would not make much of a difference either...tighter rules to such thread "might" help some, but others... well just don't care.

One more before I leave... Harming yourself behind the wheel due to an ego kick; is not as important to me as a chance of harming others. (i.e. Family)

 

[DE31]

I dont usually do this but i just can't take this anymore.

Now ur really (CHILDISH)

Okay, you need to spell out the word you're and don't use that AIM talk. Like someone on here this is a forum not an instant messenger, you have the time to actually type things out and read everything over. Next, dont put random words in parenthases. Caps lock is not your friend. i can understand that you want to emphasize on that word but please, next time use bold or underline if anything at all.

This a car forum, street racing has things to do about car's.

This is a car forum, and its "things to do about cars no apostrophe, that would mean that your talking about the car's possession.

"Does yours"????

Who are you quoting, and why do you have the question marks outside the quotes?.

NO= Mazda's are the tightest, MSP's are nice,

There is no use for the equal sign in this sentence. I guess you should be using a comma but it still doesn't make sence to me. I might of missed whatever you might of been replying to. Again, no apostrophe because that would mean your talking about the noun's possessions.

then you get DMITRIK4=POINTLESS/PRICELESS

I don't even know what to say about this.

*Edit* I would say to not remove that forum. Our forums seem to understand that street racing is already bad. Only those few who make threads like that one thread that someone posted about how this site supports street racing, everyone who replied flamed on the guy. You see violence and killing in movies, and how there have been copy cat crimes, but you don't see people censoring the media completely. I think what we should do is not have people condole street racing in their threads, but still have them here.

 

[Antoine]

Chill guys...keep it civil...The vote is the final answer.

 

[RaiderMS3]

Antoine, you are not gonna state your position?

Oh, found a recent article on CNN about a recent street racing kill in LA. Perhaps there should be a thread there for it?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/03/clinic.crash.ap/index.html

 

[Witchdoktor]

Antoine, you are not gonna state your position?

the racing section exists here so what does that tell you. and letting the forum members decide is a weak cop out like a politician. irresponsible and poor leadership move IMO.

good debate btw

 

[RaiderMS3]

The only difference in posting about street racing wins, and a post about a tragedy, or link to CNN about a tragedy, is that the guys posting who they beat, did not happen to crash. I am actually surprised there are people that approve of the thread being there.

 

[dmitrik4]

i don't buy the "but when peoople post street racing stories, others criticize them" argument, b/c it's not true. there might be a couple of people who chime in, but for the most part they're shouted down by others crying "what, you've never speeded before?!!?? what's the difference?!/1?!"

in any case, the overall message of that forum certainly is NOT "mazda forums do not approve of street racing." the fact that it is maintained and provided at all shows a tacit acceptance of the activity.

if no one wants a "sex w/ little boys" forum, how about a "vandalizing cars for fun" forum? or a "joyriding" forum? car-related enough?

i think perhaps some folks are nervous about being accused of hypocrisy, b/c a lot of people have at one time participated in a race on public roads, no matter how minor. but that's flawed logic unless the person still does it. when i was young and immature, i used to race people "only when i thought it was 'safe!!!'." once i grew up, i realized it's never truly "safe," and stopped doing it. and i don't feel the least bit bad about telling others they're stupid and immature for doing it, b/c that's reality.

the fact that this site provides a place to brag about it (legal protection diisclaimers notwithstanding) tells me (and others) that it's an accepted activity by an otherwise reputable board.

The real questions to be answered are, "What is the image we want to portray? How responsible and mature of a community are we going to be?"

The answers to those should direct the answers to all the smaller questions, such as this one.

 

[jred321]

i don't buy the "but when peoople post street racing stories, others criticize them" argument, b/c it's not true. there might be a couple of people who chime in, but for the most part they're shouted down by others crying "what, you've never speeded before?!!?? what's the difference?!/1?!"

that's because for the most part the older/more mature audience avoids that section totally as they realize it's worthless, so what you have in there is the younger crowd who thinks it's acceptable, so they're the ones who are vocal about it

 

[Scooter_TO]

couldn't agree more than I do with dmitrik4. I can't be bothered to type up a huge paragraph to explain my thoughts, but what you said is exactly what I feel.

 

[MiaTurbo]

didn't know there was one. yeah, it should go.

 

[aMaff]

the fact that this site provides a place to brag about it (legal protection diisclaimers notwithstanding) tells me (and others) that it's an accepted activity by an otherwise reputable board.

The real questions to be answered are, "What is the image we want to portray? How responsible and mature of a community are we going to be?"

The answers to those should direct the answers to all the smaller questions, such as this one.

exactly. Thanks mike .

 

[Rawyzf]

I vote for it to go, but at the least change the name to something that isn't illegal. Maybe just Racing...or something like that.

Street Racing is a crime and should not be a main forum section.

 

[Rawyzf]

Well put! +rep

i don't buy the "but when peoople post street racing stories, others criticize them" argument, b/c it's not true. there might be a couple of people who chime in, but for the most part they're shouted down by others crying "what, you've never speeded before?!!?? what's the difference?!/1?!"

in any case, the overall message of that forum certainly is NOT "mazda forums do not approve of street racing." the fact that it is maintained and provided at all shows a tacit acceptance of the activity.

if no one wants a "sex w/ little boys" forum, how about a "vandalizing cars for fun" forum? or a "joyriding" forum? car-related enough?

i think perhaps some folks are nervous about being accused of hypocrisy, b/c a lot of people have at one time participated in a race on public roads, no matter how minor. but that's flawed logic unless the person still does it. when i was young and immature, i used to race people "only when i thought it was 'safe!!!'." once i grew up, i realized it's never truly "safe," and stopped doing it. and i don't feel the least bit bad about telling others they're stupid and immature for doing it, b/c that's reality.

the fact that this site provides a place to brag about it (legal protection diisclaimers notwithstanding) tells me (and others) that it's an accepted activity by an otherwise reputable board.

The real questions to be answered are, "What is the image we want to portray? How responsible and mature of a community are we going to be?"

The answers to those should direct the answers to all the smaller questions, such as this one.

 

[Pretzellogic]

I'm bumping this. Not because of any position I have on this topic, but because tritonheat1's posts deserve special mention. I'm not sure which makes me laugh more: his absolute lack of coherence, or the fact that he truly believes he's making a valid point with every post.

 

[jersey_emt]

The vote is close. If you have an opinion on whether or not to remove the Street Racing forum, please vote and let your voice be heard...the power is yours.

 

[daedalus]

how many people on here drink and talk about drinking in various forums... how many people die from drunk driving accidents every year? About 16,694. Street Racing deaths? 50 last year. I've read on numerous occasions in various threads peole posting up how they were too tipsy to drive, but they did it anyway... yada yada. Point is this..

You want to ban something that actually causes harm on a huge scale... ban people talking about drinking. It would be more effective than this pointless excersize in the futility of our community about the harms of street racing... The stats remain true, i'm 338X's safer street racing than getting drunk. Which makes this entire thread just about as pointless as debating the exsistance of a three-eyed 3 foot canibalistic midget. ITS JUST DUMB.

 

[RaiderMS3]

alcohol consumption is not illegal. yes, DUI is. But there is not a section on here for DUI success stories for people to brag about, but thereis for illegal street racing.

It is not pointless to decide whether or not antoine wants to have illegal racing represented proudly on his forum. It is a serious debate.