Why I had you take that sport compact car survey

Grimace

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Many of you took the time to fill out the sport compact car survey I posted a while ago (here: http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13648 ) Here is why I asked you to take my survey:
A few guys (including myself) at GM have been discussing how GM has a bit of a gap in its model lineup. Namely, small sporty cars in the $20-low $30's range (Canadian). In fact, I'm in the market for a small sports sedan in that region, and the closest thing that GM offers is the Cavalier Z24 sedan (not interested) and the new Saab 9-3 (just outside of the budget at a start price of $35k.) So instead, I ordered a Mazdaspeed Protege.
Most other automakers have something in this price range for the sport compact crowd, such as the Acura RSX, Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V, Subaru Impreza 2.5RS (and its big brother the WRX), Toyota Celica, BMW Mini, VW Golf GTi (and Jetta 1.8T), Ford Focus SVT, Dodge SRT-4, and so on. Namely all those cars that I asked you to rank on my survey. So maybe The General should foray into this growing market segment (in my humble opinion anyway).
Long story short, in mid-March 17 I made a small presentation to the small car product planners at GM about what a guy like me would like out of sport compact car, and suggested some ways GM could enter this segment.
We discussed importing the Opel/Vauxhall Astra GSi (see here for some pictures: http://www.gsi.top-webservice.de/oliver/oliver.htm )
Specs are 2.0L turbo, 17" wheels with sticky rubber, Recaro seats, sport suspension. Yum. The Opel Astra Turbo Coupe is very nice as well. Unfortunately, with import laws, CAW stickiness, and homologation issues, it is impossible.
The other alternative involved upgrading an existing vehicle. I can't say anything really about the direction GM chose to take, but lets just say keep an eye in your rear-view mirror for a hotted up version of a certain 4-door coupe with plastic body panels in a years time...
Thanks again everyone for taking the time to fill out the survey. I really appreciated your input, and the boys at GM had a look at all your responses, so they actually counted for something!
 
You mean the supercharged sunfire?
Thats already being reported about.
If I am F-ing something up I will delete.
 
Then GM is plannig a few possiblities
If you guys own Renualt get he damn clio sport over here
 
Whatever it is, i bet it still is not that great.

the main turning point in sport compact or ANY car category


RELIABILITY <-----------

I dont care how fast or good looking a car is.... it needs reliability.... i sure hope GM can make more of their cars like their pontiac division.... they seem to last the best.
 
The grand am is a huge NONO! the most recent Trans ams and Fire birds went through rear ends constanly. I have had a long discusion with a Pontaic Service manager, get the Boniville, Grand Prix or nothing!
 
With all the problems my buddy has with his L100 I'll pass.
 
It's been known for a while that GM was planning on a turbo option on the Ion. I'm just glad they are making something. I would have snatched up a Cavalier with the supercharged 3800 if they made it.
 
Can a cavalier drivetrain sustain the torque of the supercharged 3800 engine?
 
My friend's g/f just bought an ION...
...has to be thEE ugliest interior I have ever seen...
 
Damn near all of GMs cars are terrible interiors with that bulbus on bulbus look where every peice is like a small platue built apon another, very hidious.
 
the interior is the most important part of a car IMO...which is part of the reason I chose the P5. Its where you spend 99% of your time!!!
 
Tell them to make the cavaliers radio easier to remove. You have to F around by the air bag for christ sakes!
 
Grimace said:
GM is aware of the complaints with the interior. All I can say.

They damn well should. They've only been falling apart for the past 20 years. You think by now they would know how to screw some s*** together. Their engines and drivetrains are great. It's the styling and general fit and finish of interior that has kept me away.
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
Tell them to make the cavaliers radio easier to remove. You have to F around by the air bag for christ sakes!

Aww, c'mon 1st MP3 in NH, I can have the radio out of the 95 and up Cavy's in just over 2 minutes. I agree though, it is pretty stupid that you have to take the whole top cover off, why couldn't they have just made the front panel snap into the top one, instead of the other way around. Anyway...my thoughts on GM....JUNK, not some of them..all of them. I hate GM in just about every way possible. All of their cars are ugly and the design theory behind them SUCKS!!! I guess they might make a decent truck, but I'd rather push my Ford than drive a GM POS. Ok, I am done ranting now and starting to prepare for the flame about the Ford comment.

peace
Griff
 
gm is junk in general. I can't stand the cheap plastics they use in ALL of their cars/trucks...cheap cheap cheap. Plastics that look like they are from the early 80's still. They've had a few neat looking designs from time to time, but I'll never buy one. NEVER.

I don't even like the interior of the vette's :(
 
You should tell them to make it a little less ugly too on the outside. I'm sorry but I have rarely liked an american compacts style. I would say the only exception is the final gen Probe, that's it. Why don't you take some cues from the g35 or any nissan product. Nissan is on fire right now!!!!
 

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