Who wants to explain coilovers to the newb?

1moreMPH said:
so are coilovers a cheap/bad way to lower your car and make handeling a bit better? cuz my friend just got me some from ebay...and i don't wanna put them on if they gonna suck or wear out something in the suspension....

Did he get actual coilovers or just coilover sleeves?
 
HorsepowerFreak said:
Did he get actual coilovers or just coilover sleeves?

no they're actual, fully-adjustable coil-overs (with the springs and 'shocks' together).
 
1moreMPH said:
no they're actual, fully-adjustable coil-overs (with the springs and 'shocks' together).

Well depending on brand and quality of them... Coilovers are the best suspension method.
 
HorsepowerFreak said:
Well depending on brand and quality of them... Coilovers are the best suspension method.

i never heard of 'em...so i was a little skeptical...they are "Jax Racing" coilovers that my friend got from ebay. they were something like 70 bucks...so i dunno, i guess i could try?
 
1moreMPH said:
i never heard of 'em...so i was a little skeptical...they are "Jax Racing" coilovers that my friend got from ebay. they were something like 70 bucks...so i dunno, i guess i could try?

70 bucks does not sound like true coilovers. They are probably just the cheap sleeves that slide over the stock strut.

I would never use those on a vehicle I own.
 
HorsepowerFreak said:
70 bucks does not sound like true coilovers. They are probably just the cheap sleeves that slide over the stock strut.

I would never use those on a vehicle I own.


He send pics to me and they look like the real deal. they have the damper and spring together...and just bolt the whole thing in place of the stockers...
 
1moreMPH said:
He send pics to me and they look like the real deal. they have the damper and spring together...and just bolt the whole thing in place of the stockers...

Post the pics so we can all see them....
 
Yeah, i'd be interested in seeing them. I tried googling for jax coilovers and came up with absolutely nothing.
 
Ok, I was just looking at a thread for tokico struts. They make illumina "5 way" adjustable struts. This is similar to a coilover except for the spring? So if they were paired with coilover sleeves, it would be pretty much a true coilover setup?(except that the parts weren't made specifically to go together)
Dammit I'm confused again.
 
Its very simple :) You're too busy getting caught up in names, you need to just focus on the fuctionality of the parts.

Ideally, you want dampers that are specificly tuned for the frequency of the springs they control. So if you aren't lucky enough to have custom valved dampers for your specific springs, adjustable dampers are the next best way of finding a close to optimum damper setting. In addition to having adjustable dampening, being able to adjust ride height without preloading the springs is another plus if you don't go the custom route. Don't worry so much about what the part is called, worry about its ability to tune your suspension.

Depending on what springs you get for your MSP, you may not need the Illuminas since the HP's are a bit over dampened for the RacingBeat springs.
 
Ground Control makes the best coilsleeves in the industry IMO. Skunk2 has a set that ppl have been happy with too, but Dropzone is a no go. There is a reason GC charges $400 while DZ charges $150. Its not jsut the name. I wouldn't trust a car riding on DZs.
 
I would have to trust mx3ownzj00 advice seeing how he is an autocrosser and I would assume he would be into suspensions big time....



mx3ownzj00 said:
Ground Control makes the best coilsleeves in the industry IMO. Skunk2 has a set that ppl have been happy with too, but Dropzone is a no go. There is a reason GC charges $400 while DZ charges $150. Its not jsut the name. I wouldn't trust a car riding on DZs.
 
Price of the product should also account for something also.
 
HorsepowerFreak said:
Price of the product should also account for something also.
mx3ownzj00 said:
There is a reason GC charges $400 while DZ charges $150. Its not just the name.

:) Build quality and spring quality are what sets GC apart. How many track prepped BMWs do you see with Dropzones?
 
Yeah, exactly..... GC uses Eibach springs not some random mass produced ones.

Never the less, I would never use coilover sleeves anyway. Real coilovers or nothing is my philosophy of suspension. Well, standard spring/strut setup is ok. But I really hate those sleeve things. :shakeshead:

You can pick up sleeves off ebay for like $60 or so shipped if I recall.
 
thx guys,,forget about DZ...i bought the FAlken P5 one from GB.....75 drop is too little for my MSP thu.....btw hows the install?
 
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