Who Is Running Gtx Gears? Results? Ideas? Hp?

then why do i have a shelf full of gears and all the stripes are in different posistions on the gear , some left , some have 2 , some have a fat single, some have 1 each side, they all determine what ratio the gear is on a parts list without counting the actual teeth....maybe they do help get oil in there but thats not the purpose they are made for. thats how u identify the gears........what proof do u have id like to see what you base that on

why do some gears have no grooves then? wouldnt all the gears have the same design groove for the lubrication in the middle rather than o nthe side etc where the flow would only be lubricating one side of the gear

heres a list of some i have...


final drive no stripe 3.850:1
final drive 2 side stripes 4.105:1
final drive 1 stripe each side 4.388:1


1st gear no stripe 3.307:1
2nd gear no stripe 1.833:1
3rd gear no stripe 1.233:1
3rd gear 1 center stripe 1.310:1
4th gear no stripe 0.970:1
4th gear 1 center stripe 1.030:1
4th gear 2 stripes 0.914:1
5th gear 1 fat centre stripe 0.717:1
 
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if you guys are keen and think these 3rds are decent would you wanna buy my stash of them i have heaps of GTX 3rd gears here , i have the no stripe 1.23 ratio and the 1 stripe 1.31 ratio, the 1.31 is the GTX ratio stock, however the 1.23 is the same quality and part just a logner ratio ......these gears are all very good condition used parts....but ill sell them for say 80 US a pair , i also have 5th gear in .717

i have checked and have 4 sets of gtx 3rd in 1.23 , 1 set in 1.31

2 sets of 4th in 0.914
2 sets of 5th in 0.717

i can send the lot over in one package and do a deal if you like they are just spares i use to rebuild peoples boxes here in my workshop
 
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Maxx Mazda said:
You do not need the bearing, only when installing these gears into an actual 323. Also, 4th is unchanged. Just go with 5th and 3rd. The part numbers are correct.
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what you mean 4th is unchanged? i thought the point of all of this was to get the 3rd and 4th gears cause they were wider and stronger.
 
kyle's protege5 said:
what you mean 4th is unchanged? i thought the point of all of this was to get the 3rd and 4th gears cause they were wider and stronger.
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3rd and 5th... 4th may or may not be stronger, but the ratio is the same.
 
GTXWGN said:
if you guys are keen and think these 3rds are decent would you wanna buy my stash of them i have heaps of GTX 3rd gears here , i have the no stripe 1.23 ratio and the 1 stripe 1.31 ratio, the 1.31 is the GTX ratio stock, however the 1.23 is the same quality and part just a logner ratio ......these gears are all very good condition used parts....but ill sell them for say 80 US a pair , i also have 5th gear in .717

i have checked and have 4 sets of gtx 3rd in 1.23 , 1 set in 1.31

2 sets of 4th in 0.914
2 sets of 5th in 0.717

i can send the lot over in one package and do a deal if you like they are just spares i use to rebuild peoples boxes here in my workshop
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If you have a longer 5th from a GTX I would be interested. Longer in comparison to a stock Protege GM style tranny. I don't know if the ones you have are any longer than stock.
 
I just set up a name here because I have some questions. I have a 1993 Mx6 V6. I have over 8 grand in the motor.. and now im trying to build tranny. its all apart next to me ( im in the GM shop) - apprentice technician. I have the 1989 323 GTX AWD gears ( 3rd) part numbers

gc02-17-230B & GC02-17-305B

Why is the Counter REv Gear diffrent part number. ?

Will I need the 1988 3rd gear.. I thought the 1988 and the 1989 were the same??

What should I do about my 4th gear, all this talk and it sounds like 4th might not be stronger than my Mx6 tranny 4th.. I know 3rd is more beeft.. but is 4th? should I order 4th before I put this back together?

thanks info fast is appru.
 
I just set up a name here because I have some questions. I have a 1993 Mx6 V6. I have over 8 grand in the motor.. and now im trying to build tranny. its all apart next to me ( im in the GM shop) - apprentice technician. I have the 1989 323 GTX AWD gears ( 3rd) part numbers

gc02-17-230B & GC02-17-305B

Why is the Counter REv Gear diffrent part number. ?

Will I need the 1988 3rd gear.. I thought the 1988 and the 1989 were the same??

What should I do about my 4th gear, all this talk and it sounds like 4th might not be stronger than my Mx6 tranny 4th.. I know 3rd is more beeft.. but is 4th? should I order 4th before I put this back together?

thanks info fast is appru.
 
I'm looking to improve the strength of my gearset (mainly on 3rd). In stock form, I've got gears with 38 & 29 teeth. Ideally, I'd like to be around 36 & 28 to have a similar ratio. The GTX gearset (from your photos) has 37 & ??(it would have to be 30 to make the 1.23 ratio). Can anyone confirm that?

Is it possible to mix & match gears (such as gtx primary & protege secondary) within the model years to achieve a desirable gear ratio?

Thanks,
Dave
 
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H_type said:
I just set up a name here because I have some questions. I have a 1993 Mx6 V6. I have over 8 grand in the motor.. and now im trying to build tranny. its all apart next to me ( im in the GM shop) - apprentice technician. I have the 1989 323 GTX AWD gears ( 3rd) part numbers

gc02-17-230B & GC02-17-305B

Why is the Counter REv Gear diffrent part number. ?

Will I need the 1988 3rd gear.. I thought the 1988 and the 1989 were the same??

What should I do about my 4th gear, all this talk and it sounds like 4th might not be stronger than my Mx6 tranny 4th.. I know 3rd is more beeft.. but is 4th? should I order 4th before I put this back together?

thanks info fast is appru.
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we installed an 89 gtx 3rd gear set just this past January. I bought them new from a local mazda dealership. So far it's holding up beautifully. I am pushing 20psi through a gt30r on this trans too.... Lastly I noticed absolutely no difference in the gear ratios going from stock to the gtx set. It does feel more solid then my third gears over two previous transmissions ever did. This is probably due to the less but thicker teeth count of the gtx gears..
 
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truckindave said:
I'm looking to improve the strength of my gearset (mainly on 3rd). In stock form, I've got gears with 38 & 29 teeth. Ideally, I'd like to be around 36 & 28 to have a similar ratio. The GTX gearset (from your photos) has 37 & ??(it would have to be 30 to make the 1.23 ratio). Can anyone confirm that?

Is it possible to mix & match gears (such as gtx primary & protege secondary) within the model years to achieve a desirable gear ratio?

Thanks,
Dave
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Sorry dave, it is not possible. I looked at doingthat with the MS3 gears from the 6 speed, but unfortunately you need to get them as a pair, or they will be different sizes.
 
heres an update on the part numbers for you guys since they have changed once again:

GTX 3rd: G513-17-230 & G612-17-305
GTX 4th: G401-17-303B & G402-17-210B (unavailable at this time)
GTX 5th: G561-17-611B & G611-17-308
 
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