Where's the Boost!?!

[gearhead]

Hey everyone! This is my first thread on the board and I've really learned a great deal from you guys already. As you can see from my sig., I just bought my MSP a week or so ago. With the help of this forum, I've already fixed several problems I found when I bought the car. This weekend I programmed the remotes, fixed the rear end clunk with Energy Suspension bushings I found at Autozone, and added a temporary short-ram intake from some spare parts I had laying around.

I'm not sure if this works for these vehicles or not, but I disconnected/reconnected the battery to hopefully reset the ECU after I did the intake mod. Does this work? I have found it successful on past vehicles. I always let them idle for 10 minutes afterwards to set idle A/F.

To not go to far of topic, I have posted in other threads about excess boost (10 to 12 psi according to guage) . I bought the MSP this way and have worried myself (and the dealer - great bargaining tool ) about this for the past week. I can't find a boost controller under the dash or in the engine bay. The motor runs great and I have been good about staying out of the boost, but I would rather dial the boost back a little if I could. The only other thing I can think of is the WGA spring mod. I can't tell if anything has been tampered with in the engine other than the BOV. Any suggestions?

Bryan

 

[fr0st]

Hey everyone! This is my first thread on the board and I've really learned a great deal from you guys already. As you can see from my sig., I just bought my MSP a week or so ago. With the help of this forum, I've already fixed several problems I found when I bought the car. This weekend I programmed the remotes, fixed the rear end clunk with Energy Suspension bushings I found at Autozone, and added a temporary short-ram intake from some spare parts I had laying around.

I'm not sure if this works for these vehicles or not, but I disconnected/reconnected the battery to hopefully reset the ECU after I did the intake mod. Does this work? I have found it successful on past vehicles. I always let them idle for 10 minutes afterwards to set idle A/F.

To not go to far of topic, I have posted in other threads about excess boost (10 to 12 psi according to guage) . I bought the MSP this way and have worried myself (and the dealer - great bargaining tool ) about this for the past week. I can't find a boost controller under the dash or in the engine bay. The motor runs great and I have been good about staying out of the boost, but I would rather dial the boost back a little if I could. The only other thing I can think of is the WGA spring mod. I can't tell if anything has been tampered with in the engine other than the BOV. Any suggestions?

Bryan

could you like , post pics of under the hood ?

if you have a bov, you have hard piping.. made of metal.
you might even have a font mount intercooler.. or side mount.. follow the piping from the engine going top the font.. and take pics.. and post them here..

12 psi on stock s*** is a problem waiting to happen

 

[gearhead]

Here's a few pics I took the other day before I cleaned up the BOV install and put in the intake. Like I said, I used the over-enthusiastic boost as a bargaining tool when I bought the car. My sales guy tried to say that all the mods were done right and it should add value to the car. I quickly smacked him down with the "double stock boost and stock internals = grenade motor" argument. He adjusted price accordingly.....

 

[crashkelly]

Here's a few pics I took the other day before I cleaned up the BOV install and put in the intake. Like I said, I used the over-enthusiastic boost as a bargaining tool when I bought the car. My sales guy tried to say that all the mods were done right and it should add value to the car. I quickly smacked him down with the "double stock boost and stock internals = grenade motor" argument. He adjusted price accordingly.....

the mods were done right and add calue to the car...that is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard...and after seeing the crap job the last person did on your BOV i think that is even more ridiculous...god i hate salesmen...

 

[crashkelly]

your BOV might be stuck closed.

 

[MSPRM]

if that was the case he wouldnt build any boost at all

 

[gearhead]

Did the DPO hack into the return line where the BPV was? He didn't leave behind the BPV for me.....

If that's the case then I'm a pissed because I just read up on the BOV/BPV duel system and I have all the stuff here at work to plumb in the air manifold block.

 

[4drboost]

the mods were done right and add calue to the car...that is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard...and after seeing the crap job the last person did on your BOV i think that is even more ridiculous...god i hate salesmen...

Hey, im a car salesman, and I wouldnt give anyone a load of crap like that.

 

[MSP_4_CODY]

try blowing into the vacume line that goes to the wastegate, if you can blow into it, then you have a bad wastegte actuator, atp make a good replacement if thats the case. good luck

 

[crackerjakx]

I'd question that setup and how the car may have been treated before. It looks like it was thrown together very carelessly.

 

[gearhead]

I found the problem with the boost guage. The DPO hacked into the MAP sensor line for his boost signal reading. Thus, I was seeing manifold + barometric pressure on my boost guage. I put a air manifold on the brake booster line after reading up on a few threads. All my lines have been re-routed and I now get stock boost levels on my guage! That makes me feel much better about my purchase.

I still get some turkey at light boost, but I may just need to adjust the BOV some more. I would really like to put my BPV back in the system, but I do not have the part. Any suggestions on how to make one or something I can put in the recirc. line to act as one? I don't have $120 to shell out for a Forge and the factory part is crap from what I read. Here's a video I shot of my existing setup and the idle problem after blow off. I need to get some silicone lines and toss the plastic and rubber line.

 

[Maxx Mazda]

You've done a good job cleaning up the hackery done by the previous owner.

Also, kudos to you for worrying about boost levels man. It's nice to meet a smart MSP owner.

 

[gearhead]

Thanks for the comments. I like your P5! I came close to buying a red P5 until this MSP came along

 

[yellowmsprotege]

I just got done talking to a buddy of mine that owned the car b 4 me and told me check the waste gate acc. and i blew in the line and mines stuck open causing my booste guage to spike at 14-15 psi. looks like a new acc. is coming now.

 

[2.0t03speed]

wow so ur friend sold you a car that has a blown wastegate actuator? you lucky your motor isnt gone allready you boost more than double the stock boost

 

[yellowmsprotege]

well i've wanted the car since he bought it and he traded it in for an 07 ms 3. He didn't know it was bad until i just told him a min ago. Plus i had a warranty that was gonna fix everything but it's a long story and i now have no warranty. so i have to fix it.

 

[2.0t03speed]

i thought u said u had warrenty what the hell happend? o and nice choice on the ms3 i was thinking about getting one today but then changed my mind. ive allready dumped too much money in the msp so ill just continue building it to be faster than a ms3 =D

 

[yellowmsprotege]

Well it got revoked because the mechanics failed to do a used car inspection on it or all this would be fixed already. Warranty requires a UCI or your screwed w your warranty. No body knew it didnt have a UCI done or they would've done one b4 they sold it to me. And yeah he made a good choice that car is fine and drives great!!!

 

[2.0t03speed]

thats ****** up and theres no way to have it done now is there?

 

[yellowmsprotege]

Yeah it is!!!! But there fixin whats wrong with it rite now to make up for the **** up! It goes back to the shop next wed.