whats faster, bone stock Neon srt4 or the MS3

Kain · Dec 9, 2008

lawl.

"Oh, drats! My Bentley is in the shop yet again, and I have an appointment with my tennis instructor at noon. Whatever shall I do? Hmm, perhaps I can visit a... what do the commoners call it? Oh yes, a rental car store, I believe. But what to rent? The Rolls Royce is too obnoxious, the Ferrari too flashy... oh, I know! A Neon SRT-4! Nothing says, 'I have arrived' like pulling into the country club in a loud skittle."

chrisp · Dec 9, 2008

LASERBLUE135 said:
2005 SRT ACR FTW. faster in a straight line, and in turns. stock. cheaper and with better aftermarket.

The srt is an amazing car for what it is...a low rent racer.

The MS3 is a beautiful car. Very powerful, nice 6 speed, great interior, features, and hatchback utility. But bottom line, the srt is faster if we're all adults and put away our personal preferences.

and now the new Cobalt is the king in a straight line, AND in turns.

(the MS3 is the better "vehicle", which is good, you know we drive these things on the street!)

cobalt ss is actually slower than the speed3. c&d got a best of 14.2@102. speed3 got a best of 14@103. if your talkin straight line excelleration the new wrx owns all plain and simple

DaleNixon · Dec 9, 2008

I need to rent an SRT 4 and dyno the s*** out of it!

chrisp · Dec 9, 2008

PCspeed3 said:
Just go rent an SRT4 from enterprize if you really wanna drive it......sheesh.

pretty sure 05 was the last year they made the srt4, and seeing as how they are always blowing up their probably arent any left for rentals.(cool)

lynnriderm6 · Dec 9, 2008

Ya 05 was the last year they made the neon srt4s but they make caliber 1s now i think theyre not as fast...280hp 260trq....but the srt-4 neon engine just doesnt blow up....stock numbers for the srt4 neon is 230hp 250trq at about 2800 2900 pounds=dont race 1 on the highway unless you feel like getting pulld by a neon..ive seen my friends srt4 just with a short ram intake and a agp wastegate beat a stage 2 sti..i mean for how much theyr worth why not get a fwd neon that beats evos sti's and other cars on the highway srt-4=HIGHWAY MONSTER

chrisp · Dec 9, 2008

lynnriderm6 said:
Ya 05 was the last year they made the neon srt4s but they make caliber 1s now i think theyre not as fast...280hp 260trq....but the srt-4 neon engine just doesnt blow up....stock numbers for the srt4 neon is 230hp 250trq at about 2800 2900 pounds=dont race 1 on the highway unless you feel like getting pulld by a neon..ive seen my friends srt4 just with a short ram intake and a agp wastegate beat a stage 2 sti..i mean for how much theyr worth why not get a fwd neon that beats evos sti's and other cars on the highway srt-4=HIGHWAY MONSTER

I have already raced 2 neons on the highway, niether of them being stock and I am 2-0. I know they are fast but they arent as quick as you think. youtube has a few videos of stage 2 stis beating stage 2 srt4s

eg6motion · Dec 9, 2008

I too have encountered a couple srt-4's. They are quick, but the ms3 has been slightly quicker in both cases...and I only have a CAI. No idea what they had but not likely stock as both had different wheels, suspension etc. I also test drove one prior to the ms3 and it felt nothing like the ms3 (probably because the ms3 has a peaky-turbo).

240ka · Dec 9, 2008

lynnriderm6 said:
Ya 05 was the last year they made the neon srt4s but they make caliber 1s now i think theyre not as fast...280hp 260trq....but the srt-4 neon engine just doesnt blow up....stock numbers for the srt4 neon is 230hp 250trq at about 2800 2900 pounds=dont race 1 on the highway unless you feel like getting pulld by a neon..ive seen my friends srt4 just with a short ram intake and a agp wastegate beat a stage 2 sti..i mean for how much theyr worth why not get a fwd neon that beats evos sti's and other cars on the highway srt-4=HIGHWAY MONSTER

yep, there are three guys my cousin is friends with that have srt4s pushing over 400hp and havent blown yet

lynnriderm6 · Dec 9, 2008

lynnriderm6 · Dec 9, 2008

oaklandopen · Dec 9, 2008

that last vid is f'ing crazy!!!

lynnriderm6 · Dec 9, 2008

Moxhair · Dec 9, 2008

I think its funny when you see topics like this on a site and it doesn't matter what car you're comparing the topic turns ignorant and childish.

I owned a Stage 3R, 11second, daily driven, SRT-4 Neon before I bought my MS3. I traded that car in not because of reliability issues or anything like that. The car ran very strong and was still daily drivable. I traded it in because I'm more of a Road Racer and Autocrosser and found Drag racing incredibly boring. The MS3 is much more comfortable and I can go from the street to the track and hang near the top of the DSP class. My SRT-4 handled like dogs*** even with loads of aftermarket parts thrown at it.

Comparing the 2 is like comparing apples to oranges. The Neon was much more RAW and you had to be extremely alert at all times driving it, even it stock form. The MS3 is a better handling and better put together car.

Stock to Stock, in a drag race from a dig it would come down to the Driver. PERIOD. I ran a 13.9 in my SRT-4 in stock form. I've read and seen MS3s running around that time. Its a DRIVER'S RACE. plain and Simple. Let it Die and Let the Hate end.

The Neon is what it is. A cheap, reliable, Raw vehicle that served a purpose. The MS3 is a better car overall, there's no Model of Neon that could do what the MS3 does on a road course or Autocross in Stock form. But please leave the childish remarks and ignorant statements to the people who don't know crap about cars.

chrisp · Dec 9, 2008

Moxhair said:
I think its funny when you see topics like this on a site and it doesn't matter what car you're comparing the topic turns ignorant and childish.
But please leave the childish remarks and ignorant statements to the people who don't know crap about cars.

examples??

Moxhair · Dec 9, 2008

719prottege said:
(jerkit)too bad the srt4 is gay...

PCspeed3 said:
Just go rent an SRT4 from enterprize if you really wanna drive it......sheesh.

just picked out a couple quick ones.

LASERBLUE135 · Dec 9, 2008

^^^^^ so having owned both cars, which is faster?

Protege_MP3_506 · Dec 9, 2008

I heard the new turbo cobalt ss is supposed to be the front wheel drive car to beat. I think it was 280 hp now instead of 230.

LASERBLUE135 · Dec 10, 2008

Protege_MP3_506 said:
I heard the new turbo cobalt ss is supposed to be the front wheel drive car to beat. I think it was 280 hp now instead of 230.

the new cobalt is fast for sure, its got a 2.0 turbo with 260 hp and killed a bunch of fast cars in a road course test (sti, evo mr, bmw tt 3 series, ms3, elise sc, etc). Its got the same curse as the srt4 tho, its insanely fast, but crappy/cheap looking. But yah, its the new one to beat (fasted fwd production car). I'd like to see it go head to head with the srt acr though.

Donas64 · Dec 10, 2008

Moxhair said:
I think its funny when you see topics like this on a site and it doesn't matter what car you're comparing the topic turns ignorant and childish.

I owned a Stage 3R, 11second, daily driven, SRT-4 Neon before I bought my MS3. I traded that car in not because of reliability issues or anything like that. The car ran very strong and was still daily drivable. I traded it in because I'm more of a Road Racer and Autocrosser and found Drag racing incredibly boring. The MS3 is much more comfortable and I can go from the street to the track and hang near the top of the DSP class. My SRT-4 handled like dogs*** even with loads of aftermarket parts thrown at it.

Comparing the 2 is like comparing apples to oranges. The Neon was much more RAW and you had to be extremely alert at all times driving it, even it stock form. The MS3 is a better handling and better put together car.

Stock to Stock, in a drag race from a dig it would come down to the Driver. PERIOD. I ran a 13.9 in my SRT-4 in stock form. I've read and seen MS3s running around that time. Its a DRIVER'S RACE. plain and Simple. Let it Die and Let the Hate end.

The Neon is what it is. A cheap, reliable, Raw vehicle that served a purpose. The MS3 is a better car overall, there's no Model of Neon that could do what the MS3 does on a road course or Autocross in Stock form. But please leave the childish remarks and ignorant statements to the people who don't know crap about cars.

(iagree)
Thank you for the intelligent, honest, well thought out post.

intak3_bLkMs3 · Dec 10, 2008

nobody raged like i thought they would. yeah i would think if u pulled up to a stock srt4 on the road ur gonna smoke it. my reasoning behind this is there going to be a teen boy racer who knows absolutely nothing about cars but wanted to look cool. however you pull up to a serious srt4 its gonna be all down to who has spent more in aftermarket and who is a better driver. srt4 is RAW sexy power but every other aspect pretty much blows. but hey there exhaust is sexy as fux

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