whats faster, bone stock Neon srt4 or the MS3

[lynnriderm6]

i LOVE both cars dont get me wrong if you just want somthing thats straight up built just to race and thats it srt4 is the way to go, ive been in 5-6 dif srt4 and i love em puts you back in the seat and ovb there not the best looking cars but throw some eyelids andd they look dirty lol but ya i have a friend who has the 05 black acr with silver stripes that runs lik high 13s with like snow tires lol

 

[clos561]

exactly what the title says.

1/4= drivers race
roll = ms3 ftw

6 speed vs srt 5 speed, has its advantages for doing rolls but involves alot of shifting in 1/4.

 

[Donas64]

Despite their crappy interiors, I love Neon SRT-4's. If I could find a clean example cheap today, I don't know that I still would not buy one. Just something about them. It still wins my award for most awesome looking stock FMIC! What was dodge thinking with the Caliber?

Still though, I'm waiting for a next gen restyled cobalt SS. If they fix the interior and sharpen up all the looks, it will have all the pros of the MS3, with a HUGE aftermarket!

 

[Moxhair]

^^^^^ so having owned both cars, which is faster?

Stock to Stock
Drag = Even
Roll = Even
Road Course/Autocross = MS3

Modified
Drag = My SRT ran 11s
Roll = My SRT did 0-100 in under 10 seconds
Road Course/Autocross = MS3


Two very Different Cars, that served 2 very different purposes.

 

[intak3_bLkMs3]

im 18... love my ms3 to death... however there are many times ive considered selling it for an nsrt4. i work in sales and make commision with the market the way it is it almost bores me cause i can never afford any aftermarket parts thats my main reasoning behind considering an srt4 its cheaper ^^ however i've never pulled the trigger cause im scared ill be fixing it every weekend and i dont know enough about cars to pull that off lol

 

[Moxhair]

however i've never pulled the trigger cause im scared ill be fixing it every weekend and i dont know enough about cars to pull that off lol

The only thing to break on my SRT was the cam position sensor. Anything else was my fault or a from a pipe blowing off at 23psi.

Any car you intend to modify is going to take time to fix because something will break or come apart.

 

[skylar2ups]

(jerkit)too bad the srt4 is gay...

Do you know how many gay men are on this forum? And that you just made yourself look like an ass?

As for the cars they are both fast and fun to drive, I would get the Mazda. Stock for Stock.

 

[Donas64]

Do you know how many gay men are on this forum? And that you just made yourself look like an ass?

As for the cars they are both fast and fun to drive, I would get the Mazda. Stock for Stock.

not to take this thread to a place it doesn't need to go. While I agree that that term should not be used in a derogatory way, as a Christian, I see people use g-damn and jc constantly on the forums all the time.

Just saying I hope we are as sensitive to those things as using the word gay.

but I do agree with you. Stock for stock, I take the MS3 every time.....unless the SRT-4 can be had for like 12k used.

 

[lynnriderm6]

Ya my gf bought hers for just shy of 10k with 55k on it bone stock and had a trap speed of 102.96 which is crazy

 

[chrisp]

But yah, its the new one to beat (fasted fwd production car).


how is it the fastest fwd production car when the speed3 is faster by 2 tenths?

 

[shane02pro5]

The big thing here is what % of SRT's are actually stock and MS3's for that matter??

Point being...
If you are looking that far into a vehicle to see it traps 2mph more or less or has 5whp more than another vehicle, you're going to probably mod the s*** out of it anyway to be faster/handle better!

 

[18psiWhiteMS3]

i startd this thred. have not come on in a day or 2 and holy crap i have 70 replys. lol I have owned both myself as i said in the begining. i love them both but my ms3 handles so much better and honestly think it feels just as fast if not faster. But my 2007 ZX10R puts everything i ever owned to shame

 

[oaklandopen]

i startd this thred. have not come on in a day or 2 and holy crap i have 70 replys. lol I have owned both myself as i said in the begining. i love them both but my ms3 handles so much better and honestly think it feels just as fast if not faster. But my 2007 ZX10R puts everything i ever owned to shame

+1...used to have a gsxr600. not the biggest engine but it beats everything with 4 wheels or more on the road nonetheless.

but having gotten rid of the bike for the ms3, no regrets

 

[Yamaha72]

I watched a Cobalt SS/TC run a 13.4 @ 106 with just poly engine and trans mounts, HP Tuners, and a shifter. The guy was on his first passes in a FWD coming from a 95 Z28. Those things have set course records in FWD autoxing as well. I just don't understand why they had to put those ugly gray and black seats in when they had a nice looking black one last year.
I MS3 is a much more refined, quality built, and user friendly car than the SRT4. New vs new, to me, there is no contest. I would buy the MS3 if they were both on the market at the same time.

Do you know that the new Cobalt SS/TC has a launch control option/ no-lift shifting (power shifting) pre-programmed into the ECU..? Think about it logically, The Cobalt Hahn built had a hahn racecraft OBDII Tuner, hahn Catback Exhaust, an engine mount and a STS yielding a 13.2... If we could have our mazda's with a cobb tuner, mid-pipe, engine mount and maybe just even base bushings, with a 2-step or WOT box and power shift it this would be close.. The cars are set up differently, with different aspects and points of view... Cobalt seems like it is marketed to the younger crowd as a cheap, go-fast, throw away; thats just me. The 3 seems more refined and attention has been more focused upon detail and longevity, not to mention the superior interior... Just My .02.

 

[RC08MS3]

Do you know that the new Cobalt SS/TC has a launch control option/ no-lift shifting (power shifting) pre-programmed into the ECU..? Think about it logically, The Cobalt Hahn built had a hahn racecraft OBDII Tuner, hahn Catback Exhaust, an engine mount and a STS yielding a 13.2... If we could have our mazda's with a cobb tuner, mid-pipe, engine mount and maybe just even base bushings, with a 2-step or WOT box and power shift it this would be close.. The cars are set up differently, with different aspects and points of view... Cobalt seems like it is marketed to the younger crowd as a cheap, go-fast, throw away; thats just me. The 3 seems more refined and attention has been more focused upon detail and longevity, not to mention the superior interior... Just My .02.

Im 18, and i think any Cobalt is a POS, and ugly as crap. im very content with the MS3. i came from a bolt on 2000 mustang GT, so the torque is something i miss, but with mods im sure i can get it back.

 

[aaronc7]

V T A k

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[Circle9]

which brings this video to mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I

 

[18psiWhiteMS3]

which brings this video to mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I

Bro, Thank you. that was so ******* mustang hilarious!! This is a must watch

 

[MSLou]

srt4s are slow ive raced 2. the first one had intake fmic and exhaust which i killed by like 2 cars the 2nd srt i raced even though im not sure on the mods but im pretty sure he was running some sort of upgraded turbo i beat him by about a nose length and i raced both cars numerous time from a roll and a launch same results

 

[Moxhair]

Theres no way your near stock MS3 beat SRT-4s with modifications unless they were pulling timing from running too much boost with the Stock PCM or they were completely bad drivers.

We've already made the point that the SRT-4 Neon and the MS3 run very similar times in stock form and its a driver's race.