What have you done to your P5 today?

[StealthWyvern]

Awesome, danke!

Scoobie doo much? lol

it's either the springs or struts that are different and i don't remember which

and my searching skills, well, they are lacking

Well do a search for lowering springs and see if the p5 has a different set then the reg pros. If so then the struts should be the same. I think the struts are the same and the sprign rates are different in the rear of the p5 due to the weight now that im thinking about it.

Boom! You win (first)

Sweet what did I win? paid shipping on a fog delete cover? lol(yippy)

 

[StealthWyvern]

Amaf,
What is this and where can I get one? I hate drivign with a cold ass shift knob!

 

[mx-p5]

hey, i had to cover shipping to me! lol

 

[magnumP5]

Scoobie doo much? lol

Que? LOL...

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

Just have Tylor take care of it before hand....He's great at warming up knobs!

Amaf,
What is this and where can I get one? I hate drivign with a cold ass shift knob!

 

[aMaff]

Amaf,
What is this and where can I get one? I hate drivign with a cold ass shift knob!

LOL I can't see the pic, but I know what you're talking about. The cold isn't bad, it's the heat that REALLY sucks. It's a knit cover for an iPod Nano IIRC. You can get them as 4 or 5 packs @ your average best buy / circuit city type store.

 

[mx-p5]

according to Ebay, the Protege, protege mp3, and protege 5 all use the same springs and struts. huh

lol

 

[StealthWyvern]

Que? LOL...

that chick off of scoobie doo.. i want to say her name is thelma says danke all the time.

 

[FightClubTheory]

that chick off of scoobie doo.. i want to say her name is thelma says danke all the time.

I thought it was always "jenkies!" or something like that.

 

[StealthWyvern]

I thought it was always "jenkies!" or something like that.

Your right... (beer)

 

[SuperProtege5]

according to Ebay, the Protege, protege mp3, and protege 5 all use the same springs and struts. huh

lol

actually the ES protege, Protege5 and the mazdaspeed protege all use the same struts. the springs, however, are different between all three because if you took sedan springs and put them on a P5, then the rear is going to sag. So the struts are the same, but the springs are car specific.

 

[Chicoloco]

actually the ES protege, Protege5 and the mazdaspeed protege all use the same struts. the springs, however, are different between all three because if you took sedan springs and put them on a P5, then the rear is going to sag. So the struts are the same, but the springs are car specific.

fyi

msp has tokico tuned (HP) struts...

Or is it that you mean they are interchangeable?

 

[dxaveP5]

actually the ES protege, Protege5 and the mazdaspeed protege all use the same struts. the springs, however, are different between all three because if you took sedan springs and put them on a P5, then the rear is going to sag. So the struts are the same, but the springs are car specific.

what ever springs u use its gona sag the p5 anyway the rear is gona have a bigger drop no matter what, cause of the rear hatch.
i have the tokico hp struts with their tokico springs and its made specifically for the p5 only, and it still sags.

fyi

msp has tokico tuned (HP) struts...

Or is it that you mean they are interchangeable?

Chicoloco is correct.

 

[magnumP5]

IIRC, the MSPs have a different strut setup in the rear - the spring perch or whatever it's called is in a different position. Because of this, the stock rear springs on an MSP are shorter and that's what causes the rear to sag when installed on anything else. This is also the same reason that MSPs get a serious raked look when they go to aftermarket springs and do not change struts (NOT the same as the Tokico HPs you can buy). The same might be true for the MP3s as the MSP is essentially a MP3 with a turbo kit I believe. The P5 and the sedans ES have the same suspension setup and depending on the year and/or options the DX/LX models could be similar as well.

 

[mx-p5]

to run MSP setup, you are right magnum, you need ALL the MSP perches and goodies.

Can't just throw on the springs/struts, you need abuncha other stuff.

Easier to get p5 specific, while not nessecarily cheaper

 

[SuperProtege5]

yea that's kind of what i was getting at was that any springs outside of p5 specific were going to cause the rear to sag more. the reasoning behind it was unknown to me, I just know from research that p5 specific springs lower the rear less than the sedan version, therefore counteracting the sagging that would happen. and I forgot that the MSP had differently tuned struts from the normal HPs.

 

[katsi]

got all 4 motor mounts replaced
both front control arms and bushings ordered
got rear actuator fixed
got an allignment set up

looked up new brakes
looked up new tires

Got excited for not having to drive a toyota (rental car) anymore!!!


There are times when i realise how much i love this car..

 

[FightClubTheory]

yea that's kind of what i was getting at was that any springs outside of p5 specific were going to cause the rear to sag more. the reasoning behind it was unknown to me, I just know from research that p5 specific springs lower the rear less than the sedan version, therefore counteracting the sagging that would happen. and I forgot that the MSP had differently tuned struts from the normal HPs.

Yeah, P5 specific springs will have less of a drop in the rear to compensate for the sag, thus having the car sit evenly.
Eibachs are like 1.4F / 1.2R, Teins are 1.8F/ 1.5R, and so on...

 

[i12drivemyMP5]

The maxspeed springs I have on the car now are all 1.4 & the car sits with just the slightest barely noticeable rake toward the front. Has no sag in rear at all. Running tokico illuminas. Have box of espelirs that'll be going on at some point. Hope those sit the same. Car also sat the same way with the maxspeed springs on the oem struts before I got the illuminas.

 

[magnumP5]

I was under the impression that most, if not all aftermarket springs were the same for the Protege. The only time you will run into rake issues is when using MP3 or MSP rear springs because they have different spring perches. If you were to swap out the struts on a MP3 or MSP to regular Tokico HPs I would think that the same spring set could be used on a MP3/MSP, sedan or P5.