What have you done to your MSP today?

[shane02pro5]

95 Probe
Gear Ratios:
First 3.307
Second 1.833
Third 1.310
Fourth 1.030
Fifth 0.795
Final Ratio: 4.388
Reverse 3.166

Top Speeds*
First Gear 36 mph
Second Gear 64 mph
Third Gear 90 mph
Fourth Gear 115 mph
Fifth Gear 148 mph
@7k

 

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95 Probe
Gear Ratios:
First 3.307
Second 1.833
Third 1.310
Fourth 1.030
Fifth 0.795
Final Ratio: 4.388
Reverse 3.166

Top Speeds*
First Gear 36 mph
Second Gear 64 mph
Third Gear 90 mph
Fourth Gear 115 mph
Fifth Gear 148 mph
@7k

That's a V6 transmission if it has the 4.38 final drive... I'm looking for the 4cyl. specs. Can't find them. Well, can't determine which transmission is in the car to identify which gear ratio because there are like 3 of them...

 

[shane02pro5]

All V6's are still a G-series with a slightly different housing and shorter final drive than the 4cyls.
Here is a quick list of cars the G-series MTX comes in :
87 Mazda 323 GT
90-94 Protege LX
91-94 Mercury Capri XR2
91-96 Escort GT, LX-E & Mercury Tracer
92-94 MX-3 GS (pos 1.8 v6)
93-97 MX-6 (both 4 and 6 cyl)
93-97 626 (both 4 & 6 cyl)
93-97 Probe (both 4 & 6 cyl)
95-98 Protege ES (1.8 dohc)
97-99 Kia Sephia (1.8 dohc)
97-present Ford Escort & ZX2's (i'm not sure of this but ppl tell me they use G-series too)
98-01 626 4 cyl (not sure about 6, i forgot if its a k-series)
01-03 Protege w/FS motor (2.0LX, ES, MP3, Protege5, MSP, and in 02' all DX and LX's got the 2.0 standard)

Basically any car with a 1.8 BP, 2.0 FS, or any K-series V6 has a G-series transmission, even the Miata

 

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This is what I've found...

4 cylinder
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B6-ME & B6-DE / F(2)5M-R

Gear Ratios (Input:Output)
1st 3.416:1
2nd 1.842:1
3rd 1.290:1
4th 0.918:1
5th 0.731:1
Final Drive 4.105:1


B8 (1.8 SOHC) / F(2)5M-R

Gear Ratios (Input:Output)
1st 3.416:1
2nd 1.842:1
3rd 1.290:1
4th 0.918:1
5th 0.731:1
Final Drive 3.619:1

Note that these engines came in the hatch (B6) and the 4 door sedan(B8) Mazda 323. The only difference is the FD ratio. The sedan trans offers lower cruising speeds and longer gears.


BP (1.8 DOHC) / G(2)5M-R

Gear Ratios (Input:Output)
1st 3.307:1
2nd 1.833:1
3rd 1.310:1
4th 1.030:1
5th 0.795:1
Final Drive 4.105:1

This engine only came in the 'performance' Protege (GT or LX, depending where you live), Escort GT,Tracer LTS, and all the other BP cars. It is a G series trans, and the only G case I know of that fits on B engines. It offers closer, shorter gears for acceleration.



The Kia Sephia transmission

Gear Ratios (Input:Output)
1st 3.307:1
2nd 1.833:1
3rd 1.310:1
4th 1.030:1
5th 0.795:1
Final Drive 4.105:1

Uses 28 spline axles (K series are 28 as well), beefier diff, and the Quaiffe and MSP LSD fits with a little modification.


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6 cylinder
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MX-3 (K8) & Probe GT (KLDE) / G(5)M-R

Gear Ratios (Input:Output)
1st 3.307:1
2nd 1.833:1
3rd 1.310:1
4th 1.030:1
5th 0.795:1
Final Drive 4.388:1

Short acceleration gears. There is some controversy over some of the later model PGT's getting a 4.105 FD. Ford is retarded and can't tell me the ratios, so I guess you'll have to keep pulling them apart and counting teeth. For now, if I were you, I'd assume they all have the 4.388 FD. Its much more likely that previous owners swapped in the MX-6 trans for the longer gears, than Ford put them in there OEM without someone finding that out for sure.


MX-6 (KL-DE) & 626 (KL-DE) / G(5)M-R

Gear Ratios (Input:Output)
1st 3.307:1
2nd 1.833:1
3rd 1.310:1
4th 1.030:1
5th 0.795:1
Final Drive 4.105:1

Same as the MX-3 GS (K8) transmission, just longer gears from the FD ratio.


MX-6 (FS) & 626 (FS) / G(2)5M-R

Gear Ratios (Input:Output)
1st 3.307:1
2nd 1.833:1
3rd 1.233:1
4th 0.914:1
5th 0.717:1
Final Drive 4.105:1

 

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I'm concerned with 5th gear being shorter than it is now with the transmission I'm putting in... Fuel mileage sucks balls on highway, and if I'm running another 300rpm it'll be even worse...

 

[VIPMSP]

is this a faceplate or wtf is it?

 

[o0n8]

I'm concerned with 5th gear being shorter than it is now with the transmission I'm putting in... Fuel mileage sucks balls on highway, and if I'm running another 300rpm it'll be even worse...

the .71 5th gear is the "MPG mod" if that helps you any

 

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the .71 5th gear is the "MPG mod" if that helps you any

I've found three different 5th gear ratios- .715, .755, and .837 (or something close to that). I'm wanting to avoid the .837 ratio.

 

[Cleverfrog]

is this a faceplate or wtf is it?

looks like extra weight

 

[SCMP3]

Could we take one of those 5th gears and put them on our trans from another car? to lower the rpms?


And forgive my noobness but the lower the number of the ratio the longer the gear?or am I looking at this the wrong way

 

[2.0t03speed]

yes you can.

 

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Could we take one of those 5th gears and put them on our trans from another car? to lower the rpms?


And forgive my noobness but the lower the number of the ratio the longer the gear?or am I looking at this the wrong way

Yeah. And yes, the lower the number, the longer the gear. The closer to 1 you get the closer it is to a direct drive. Make sense? Like say it was .99 that would drop your top speed a lot, but if you were at .25 that would garner a "longer" gear thus giving you a higher top speed and better fuel economy.

 

[SCMP3]

So using the above ratios, a kia 5th would be best?

 

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So using the above ratios, a kia 5th would be best?

MX-6 (FS) & 626 (FS) / G(2)5M-R

Gear Ratios (Input:Output)
1st 3.307:1
2nd 1.833:1
3rd 1.233:1
4th 0.914:1
5th 0.717:1
Final Drive 4.105:1

That would be the best, the "longest" gear resulting in a higher top speed and better fuel economy.

 

[SCMP3]

hmm. Junkyard run coming soon lol

 

[VIPMSP]

just got thattttttt

 

[2003.5_MSP]

just got thattttttt

Sweet that's the exact one I got... Just need to get my fairing. Do you plan on keeping it on the car when not in use or take it off and on when it's needed?

 

[o0n8]

I need to look into one of those for next spring I think

 

[o0n8]

does anyone know what size bolt holds the intake mani to the head?

 

[Spiced MSP]

12mm, unless you are talking about the thread pitch