What have you done to your MSP today?

So your saying having to much information is a bad thing? If everyone states to shoot for 12.5afr on turbo cars then really a wideband is pointless to read to pig rich 10 and beyond 15afr. After all you dont really need to to now rich or lean just as long as its past a certain point to where you gotta add/remove fuel. Also with that thinking wouldn't a narrow band yeild the same results? All you need to knwo if your runnign rich or lean right.

Is it reallly needed for a WB to read past 10 not really but at the same time is it really needed for it to read past 11? Its just about having as much information to tune with as possible. Now would all the information be needed more then likely not but better to have to much then not enough.

No to muh info isn't a bad thing.. I'm sayin the wideband only reads 10-16 or whatever cuz your in no way suppose to be outta that range.. like I believe u said I doubt a car wud even run being that rich.. n a narrow band is completelt worthless.. yeah it shows u lean or rich but whow exactly lean or rich? U need to kno that info unless ur careless n lile too zoomzoomboom lol
 
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I don't think its your tstat bro. I think its just the fact that you have a big ass ic core blocking a lot of the airflow to your rad. Combine that with a super hot day plus running your car hard and you have a recipe for overheating. My s*** acts up on hot days when I have the a/c running. The same thing is known to happen on msm's too after you upgrade to a bigger fmic.
 
So your saying having to much information is a bad thing? If everyone states to shoot for 12.5afr on turbo cars then really a wideband is pointless to read to pig rich 10 and beyond 15afr. After all you dont really need to to now rich or lean just as long as its past a certain point to where you gotta add/remove fuel. Also with that thinking wouldn't a narrow band yeild the same results? All you need to knwo if your runnign rich or lean right.

Is it reallly needed for a WB to read past 10 not really but at the same time is it really needed for it to read past 11? Its just about having as much information to tune with as possible. Now would all the information be needed more then likely not but better to have to much then not enough.

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Drove it to work today. First time in over a month.

Put the stock fans back in, re routed my hot pipe, installed the Weapon R coolant overflow tank.

Car runs perfect. AC blows just as cold as it did before the FMIC even in traffic. **** slim fans lol
 
Drove it to work today. First time in over a month.

Put the stock fans back in, re routed my hot pipe, installed the Weapon R coolant overflow tank.

Car runs perfect. AC blows just as cold as it did before the FMIC even in traffic. **** slim fans lol

(werd) Muuuuuuuuuch better now.
 
Well I changed my spark plugs yesterday. Gapped to 31-32. Didn't make any difference in my rich/lean issue. Old spark plugs looked pretty rough but no sign of oil on them. I took a small video of when I go into boost. Sorry for the poor quality. Its from mmy phone. But you can see what's going on. You can see it bucking before I let off. Any help would be amazing.

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Well I changed my spark plugs yesterday. Gapped to 31-32. Didn't make any difference in my rich/lean issue. Old spark plugs looked pretty rough but no sign of oil on them. I took a small video of when I go into boost. Sorry for the poor quality. Its from mmy phone. But you can see what's going on. You can see it bucking before I let off. Any help would be amazing.

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I thought they were suppose to be from .28-.30,? but whatever
 
So your saying having to much information is a bad thing? If everyone states to shoot for 12.5afr on turbo cars then really a wideband is pointless to read to pig rich 10 and beyond 15afr. After all you dont really need to to now rich or lean just as long as its past a certain point to where you gotta add/remove fuel. Also with that thinking wouldn't a narrow band yeild the same results? All you need to knwo if your runnign rich or lean right.

Is it reallly needed for a WB to read past 10 not really but at the same time is it really needed for it to read past 11? Its just about having as much information to tune with as possible. Now would all the information be needed more then likely not but better to have to much then not enough.


yeah, that's where I was going with that, thanks for explaining it, and also with it being that rich, I would know how close I am to actually hitting fuel cut, or if I am just really rich, right now I know that at 10.0 afr I am probably going to hit fuel cut, but I don't really know if it is 9.0 or whatever the level is that it hits fuel cut, I just know that it is lower than 10.0, and yes I need to tune the car a little more,

I just reloaded the map onto the ssafc and the car runs much much better now, but it's still in the mid. 10s at WOT, but generally not hitting fuel cut, just slow, and at partial boost and the lower gears it's great, but I'll get to tuning it more when I get time, and it's nicer outside
 
Drove it to work today. First time in over a month.

Put the stock fans back in, re routed my hot pipe, installed the Weapon R coolant overflow tank.

Car runs perfect. AC blows just as cold as it did before the FMIC even in traffic. **** slim fans lol

I just found out the 10" s blade fan i bought only flows a little over 600 cfm, the stock fans most certainly flow over 1000cfm. A name brand fan, even a "10 can flow up to 800cfm so if I replaced the cheap 10" that i have with 2 12" name brand slim fans they should flow more than the stock fans.
For now though i should be fine if i can fit the other 10" in there.
 
question??? has ANYONE tried cancellin out the stock primary o2 sensor and just use the aem uego i believe its the WHITE wire so the ecu just used the one sensor for both wideband and for ecu reading?? i know alot of dsm's that do it has anyone ever tried on the protege?? would it work??
 
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