What do you think of the MSP forum

What do you think about the MSP forum?

  • It is a total mess and must be helped

    Votes: 4 3.8%
  • Great...I can't keep away

    Votes: 12 11.5%
  • Don't change anything...it's fine

    Votes: 13 12.5%
  • Too many bad / useless threads

    Votes: 27 26.0%
  • it has its own personality...leave it be

    Votes: 17 16.3%
  • I don't want to post in fear of getting flamed...

    Votes: 7 6.7%
  • Some serious issues but overall it's okay

    Votes: 12 11.5%
  • I can't stand it anymore...I hardly visit

    Votes: 6 5.8%
  • I do think it needs help and I will post some feedback

    Votes: 6 5.8%

  • Total voters
    104
jersey_emt said:

Flaming will happen on any message board. Some people complain about 'all of the flaming here' but this board is TAME compared to most.

I'd encourage people to take a look at vwvortex.com or focaljet.com

Both have a lot more help, a lot cooler vibe, a lot less attitude and a lot less flames.

I've never seen a car board where mods flame people before this one.
 
Until Antoine himself starts a thread like this and reads it and implements the most common suggestion, this discussion is pointless. How many times have we had threads like this (in off-topic, flamewars, here, you name it)? Every time nothing was done. How is this thread any different? Answer: it isn't.

As I've said before and Jersey said - basically the site is perfectly fine except that a lot more threads need to be moved to the proper section. Simple as that. There is a lot of immaturity here like Carl mentioned, but I'd hate to see that lead to outright censorship. I'm done.
 
TurboColtGT said:
i agree with some of the other people about the kids and the Riceanomics. its alot about rice and very little about performance.
I personally think it needs to be more like FocalJet.com or Team Nabr or even DSMTooners. (dsmtuners.com)

:D Focaljet is my old board that I still hang out on.

Anyways. I agree with what has been said thus far. I do see that at a certain point threads are moved and then a week or two later its back the same. Sometimes it does become trouble some to search through the MSP section for specific MSP info and see tire size, and how does this wheel look posts. Not saying that I have not contributed to such unneeded posts just saying, as it has been said before, we should do a better job of placing posts where they belong.

Im usually one not to post on such a topic as I am normally a lurker but that was my not needed $0.02 :D
 
People just need to search more/ use better key words. I think that's where you get the useless threads....same old topics over & over.

As for the layout, I think it's functional and works fine as is. Overall, I am very happy, as there is tons of info that I have learned from the board.
 
Breaking the MSP section into sub folders... Power, Turning, General, should help A LOT. Off topic stuff would still be in general and people would quit posting 5 different intake or exhaust threads when they are right next to each other on the same page. The pointless "i got 0wned by an SRT-4" threads wont burry the others.

I personally come on this board hoping to see someone else got an intake or exhaust or maybe a pulley set or something. I would hang out in the Tuning section mostly and be content. Just like the NASIAC board, I stay frequent on the conversion and AFI forums since they apply to me most.

Thanks and have a nice day
Chad
www.uniquemotorsports.com
 
I've been reading this forum since I purchased my MSP back in early October. I will say that there's more chaos in this forum (particularly MSP) than other forums I've read.

I appreciate that there are subfolders for some of the more item-specific topics/questions, but there's at least one missing that I think should be created - intake. While forced induction is good enough to handle question about turbos, I'd dare say that questions on what intake is better and how do I make my own custom, blah blah blah comprise > 5% posts in the MSP forum (no I didn't count, but it's a guess based on what I've read).

I think the mods could do a better job on moving and deleting useless threads and quite honestly, I think the mods should make the final decision on where a thread should live (it shouldn't be open to discussion - that's why we have experienced mods).

One of the things I found helpful on other boards (i.e. NASIOC) and the v6accord.net (now v6performance.net) was to have a separate section for FAQs. The FAQs were organized by particular type of mod, and much more thorough and better organized than some of the FAQs we have. Some of ours have bunches of information posted by one person and then 15 replies asking questions on some of the information. All of that should be collapsed into the main faq for that area.

Couple other suggestions:
1) limit size/length of sigs - most are too damn long!!!
2) remove [pics from] sigs for archived/closed threads. If the thread is no longer active, we don't need to waste screen space and server disk space with peoples' sigs.
3) Allow searches to be shorter than three letters or less!!!
4) Be more aggressive about archiving older/closed threads
5) Post counts are useless; karma points (i.e. on slashdot) are better. A person can have 10000 posts yet still be an idiot (such as myself) and not contribute anything valuable to the forum. People who make valuable contributions should be rewarded by clearly denoting their position in the forum.
6) Require that all posts be checked for proper spelling (noob is not a real word, neither is kewl or any shiznit like that)

Thanks for reading...

Ben

P.S. Pardon my run-on sentences. It's late, I'm tired, and I have a cat on my chest.
 
Benimal...just FYI: There's only one copy of everyone's signature on the board servers. Removing sigs from older messages wouldn't save any real server space, because you'd only be removing a link to the signature retrieval script.

This is the reason why if you change your signature in your options, every post you've ever made will have the new signature...the actual signature is not included in posts.

Good suggestion though :)
 
What do I think of the form? I think it's just fine. All things MSP should be located here, whether it is how to work our Kenwood stereo to how to hook up a boost gauge.

All I can say is, if you don't like reading 20 threads on how to hook up a boost gauge, don't read them! Really, is it that difficult NOT to open a thread? As far as moving threads to different areas, realistically you could move every thread to a different area! Then it would become pointless to have an MSP section wouldn't it.
 
girth said:
Until Antoine himself starts a thread like this and reads it and implements the most common suggestion, this discussion is pointless.

Actually, this thread and poll was Antoine's idea. (owned)

The only problem with actually moderating (which i have no problem with) is that you have to be a forum nazi.. so guys...take your pick...and either way (more moderation, less moderation, or whatever, its fine), kindly STFU.

also i think the moderators should have some kind of chemistry together, and i dont think i fit in with the rest of the clan (well, maybe with 1st mp3 in nh, but he isnt a mod of this section).
 
I would like to put in my support for subfolders and the karma points thing. Would these be possible, or too much of a hassle?
 
I think you people are cold blooded to the newbie , so called flaming is a BIG waist of space and time. You should just help out instead of trying to be TEACHERS , telling some one they can't spell or tell them they are morons etc etc. When I first came in here I really didn't see the search tab ( or did I ) anyway I use it and still can't find some of the stuff I have found and now I can't cause its not in the search. AND well of COURSE you vet's are gonna see the same old s*** your OLD....... , in the forum and if not in life too , if not YOU soon will BE. So please be kind to newbies we were all newbies @ one time. And just because you got flamed does not mean you have to do it too.

We all know the world is full of assholes , but that doesn't mean you have to be one too.
 
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girth said:
Until Antoine himself starts a thread like this and reads it and implements the most common suggestion, this discussion is pointless. How many times have we had threads like this (in off-topic, flamewars, here, you name it)? Every time nothing was done. How is this thread any different? Answer: it isn't.
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This was discussed in the staff forums, and i was asked to post it for him.

*Edit. Thanks dex
 
"Originally posted by girth
Until Antoine himself starts a thread like this and reads it and implements the most common suggestion, this discussion is pointless. How many times have we had threads like this (in off-topic, flamewars, here, you name it)? Every time nothing was done. How is this thread any different? Answer: it isn't."

This is 10000% true. I feel like this whole thread like the others will fall on deaf ears.

I feel this section needs some serious organization. I find people post here with things that don't belong because they know this is the section that gets the hits.
 
34.58% Seem to dig it (at least when I counted) so leave it be.
I like the chaos it's ever so fun. (flame) (upyours) (flame)
 
Originally posted by II-Savy
This is 10000% true. I feel like this whole thread like the others will fall on deaf ears.

Ok so I see there is a problem with people posting before reading the entire thread!!! Girth and your concern was addressed by TWO Mods. One of them is right before your post!


Also those who think this forum isn't helpful, please read this thread from last night. There are TONS of threads like this on the board.

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43763
 
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Good Forum! (thumb)

But; I do think some of these members need to chill a bit, and relax. Too many come unglued if there is a duplicate question (or similar question).

It's supposed to be about having fun, and learning & sharing. Some of the members here are wound up like an 8 day clock.

RELAX........HAVE FUN!! GREET NEW MEMBERS NICELY!! TREAT ONE ANOTHER WITH RESPECT!!

CHEERS! (drinks)
 
"Ok so I see there is a problem with people posting before reading the entire thread!!! Girth and your concern was addressed by TWO Mods. One of them is right before your post! "

Huh? how was it addressed? I'm simply saying this thread and others started months ago will not change anything. it's just how I see it. I have just accepted it and I just don't read as much any more. I feel the how too's are the best part of the forum. The banter back and forth is all fluff.

"Also those who think this forum isn't helpful, please read this thread from last night. There are TONS of threads like this on the board."

This was not me. I think it's helpful at times.
 
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