waxing
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black03speed
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Time of year to wax your car doesn't really matter so long as you don't do it in the sun. If you want the best shine possible then there is no replacement for Zaino... It is expensive but worth every penny. I used it on my Cobra and it worked better than anything I've ever seen in my life. It cost about $100 for all the steps and takes a lot of work but the end result is so worth it. Start with the claybar and work your way up. It is a complete system that you build on. I had about 10 coats on my Cobra and the car always looked wet. Go to Zainobros.com for more info.
Pete
Pete
most waxes won't last longer then 3-4 weeks. These wax's that cliam they work 6 months are....umm.......lying.
There's a whole lot of info here about waxing. We went through it all when we got the MP3's.
Search for key words like Zaino, Mothers, or Meguiars. There's tips here about tire gels, what cloths to use etc. This truly is a great site with a lot of great people willing to help
I use mothers wax on the mp3, and meguirs tire gel. Although, I'm switching to Zaino this year. Mothers 3 step is great, even smells good enough to eat, but it's a long and hard process.
laterz
There's a whole lot of info here about waxing. We went through it all when we got the MP3's.
Search for key words like Zaino, Mothers, or Meguiars. There's tips here about tire gels, what cloths to use etc. This truly is a great site with a lot of great people willing to help
I use mothers wax on the mp3, and meguirs tire gel. Although, I'm switching to Zaino this year. Mothers 3 step is great, even smells good enough to eat, but it's a long and hard process.
laterz
black03speed
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I can't say it enough........ Buy the Zaino and thank me later. Do it step by step and build on what you have. That is the beauty of Zaino. The more you apply the better your car looks....
I can't say it enough........ Buy the Zaino and thank me later. Do it step by step and build on what you have. That is the beauty of Zaino. The more you apply the better your car looks....
PA_MP3_Man
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Yeah really. I've heard so much good stuff about Zaino. I was going to buy the stuff too. I never heard of the Zymol stuff. I'll have to look it up.
I have a question about carbon fiber though. Can it and should it be waxed like the rest of the car? I'd definately like to know more about the Zymol stuff though.
I have a question about carbon fiber though. Can it and should it be waxed like the rest of the car? I'd definately like to know more about the Zymol stuff though.
twiztedjeckel
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eMKay said:
really? says you. and what brings you to this conclusion may i ask? Zymol's nice don't get me wrong, mothers,meguires are decent but preferred a blend of a couple of them and the zymol till i discovered Zaino and will continue to use those products on my own personel cars. i myself run my own detailing business part time and have tried many different products always on my car first then i'll use what i like the most and find the easiest to work with on customer's cars. now the zaino i probably won't be using on customers cars due to the fact that i don't believe its suppose to last as long as most wax's like the meguire's and mothers because its a pure carnuba wax and having customers coming back alot sooner than they normally would to have their cars cleaned again because the carnuba wax tends to not last as long but give better overall finish isn't what i want. so that leads me to have to find a good conbination of the 2.
black03speed
Member
UM OK!!!
First off Zaino isn't a carnuba wax. The problem with carnuba wax is that it is yellow in color which actually discolors the paints finish. Zaino is a polish and as for how long it lasts. On my cobra I used it last spring, yes last spring and it's been through the spring, summer, fall, and now a VERY harsh winter. The car still shines better than ever. I've used Mothers, Zymol, and McGuieres all of which were good but not comparable to Zaino. When I get home I'll post a pic that I took a month after I Zainod my Cobra. It is a pic of me taking the pic in the reflection of my paint. Don't listen to this guy and buy the Zaino. Go to Corral.net and do a search about Zaino and you'll see everyone there is using it and noone has any complaints.
Pete
First off Zaino isn't a carnuba wax. The problem with carnuba wax is that it is yellow in color which actually discolors the paints finish. Zaino is a polish and as for how long it lasts. On my cobra I used it last spring, yes last spring and it's been through the spring, summer, fall, and now a VERY harsh winter. The car still shines better than ever. I've used Mothers, Zymol, and McGuieres all of which were good but not comparable to Zaino. When I get home I'll post a pic that I took a month after I Zainod my Cobra. It is a pic of me taking the pic in the reflection of my paint. Don't listen to this guy and buy the Zaino. Go to Corral.net and do a search about Zaino and you'll see everyone there is using it and noone has any complaints.
Pete
black03speed said:
The problem with zaino is that it is NOT carnauba wax, it is a polymer based polish. Carnauba will produce, in my humble opinion, the best depth of shine of any type of wax on the market. You may also apply several coats of a quality Carnauba wax over a period of time without getting "wax buildup". The downside is that Carnauba is somewhat sensitive to excess car wash. So it does not last as long as the fake stuff, this is not a problem for someone who cares about their car. nothing will protect a finish for 6 months, just because it looks shiny does not mean it's protected.
The polymer-based waxes tend to last longer, yet do not seem to give the same depth of shine, as do the Carnauba waxes. As a general rule, depth of shine and longevity are opposite ends of the same scale. Polymer waxes are also usually less sensitive to excess car wash. They do seem to be somewhat more hydroscopic (absorb water and become cloudy) than the organic waxes. If you are using a polymer based wax on a German paint and have hazing or clouding of the wax, about the only thing that will work is to strip the polymer wax and rewax with a Carnauba based wax. German paints hate polymer-based waxes. The American and Japanese paints can tolerate polymer waxes. The German paints just don't seem to react well with most of these products. There are also highly advertised Teflon based products on the market. It is my understanding that it requires a 600 plus degree environment to bond Teflon to your paint. So, unless you are applying it with a flamethrower, you may not be getting all you paid for.
The liquid zymol you buy at walmart is no better than the zaino garbage either, if you want a good shine you need a good quality carnauba wax, not a polymer polish. the stuff I use is zymol titanium, it's pricey but worth it. You also have to remember that wax is only the final step in paint care, just washing your car and slapping on some crappy polymer polish is doing more harm than good in the long run, you are trapping contaminants into the paint that will gradually destroy it. The proper procedure is to use a dedicated cleaner to strip all old wax and contaminants off the paint, then to add the emoliants back into the paint that gradually gas out with age, this step can be accomplished with one product. A good glaze like 3M imperial hand glaze will work fine, then apply your wax once a month or so.
Zymol Titanium is my favorite, but it's also extremely expensive, One Grand Blitz is almost as good and a lot cheaper...
One Grand Blitz
Here's the titanium
Titanium
Zymol also makes a formula for Japanese cars, I haven't tried it yet, but it's cheaper than the Titanium, there is a difference though, titanium you do not let dry or cure, you do one panel at a time, wipe it on with your fingers, and immediately wipe it off with a towel...
Japon
One Grand Blitz
Here's the titanium
Titanium
Zymol also makes a formula for Japanese cars, I haven't tried it yet, but it's cheaper than the Titanium, there is a difference though, titanium you do not let dry or cure, you do one panel at a time, wipe it on with your fingers, and immediately wipe it off with a towel...
Japon
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AGR
eMKay said:
okay........so; what are you recommending here? I was going to start with Meguiar's Deep Crystal System Step 2 (Polish) - then Step 3 (Wax).
I have a friend who is fanatical about his car care (the way I used to be, and the way I will be again). He highly recommends these Meguiar's products. His Hondas look amazing! One has nearly 200,000 miles on it.
Both of my cars are nearly brand new, and I plan on keeping them looking that way. I had a problem with my 1999 Nissan SE Limited. It was so bad; that I could not get the bugs off the front. It was like they were in the clear coat. Talk about a nightmare! This friend, I mentioned above, even clay barred it when he detailed it for me 2 years ago. Oh; it looked excellent overall, except for the bug problem. I will be damned if I will let that happen again on these new Mazdas!!
So,,, I am open to suggestions.
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dafababa said:
You're right, I'm sorry, when it comes to detailing, I can get a little fanatical. To answer your question there is really no best time to wax, just do it out of the sun and above 60 degrees, that may mean using a heater in your garage if like me, you live in a cold climate in winter. I wax once a month, and use 3M hand glaze every 6 months.
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AGR#7 said:
Yes, the deep crystal products are nice, it's a liquid carnauba wax so it will not last as long as a paste, but that's fine if like you say he is fanatical and waxes frequently. A liquid may be better in that case, much easier to apply and remove. Meguiars makes a nice paste wax too, high tech yellow wax it's called.
