Water temp gauge isnt working

[Wiggles422]

I installed a boost gauge and an electric oil pressure gauge (both from Autometer) about 4 days ago. Earlier today I was about to install my turbo timer (Blitz FATT) ... and long story short I turned the car on (before installing the turbo timer, i had only gotten the steering wheel cover off) and I looked at my gauges while the car was on, and my water temperature gauge wasn't working. I dont know what could be the problem, b/c it worked after I installed the Autometer gauges. Any ideas?
Thanks
-Michael

PS I tried searching but didn't come up with anything helpful

 

[ebsalem]

besides bragging rights why would you even need a Turbo Timer?

Can you say synthetic oil....

 

[Black Majik MSP]

besides bragging rights why would you even need a Turbo Timer?

Can you say synthetic oil....

Because some of us make a lot of short trips & don't want to sit in the car waiting for it to deturbotize (as my friends who know nothing of cars call it). I don't drive fast anymore, but I still boost in every gear but 5th unless I drive super slow.

 

[t3ase]

besides bragging rights why would you even need a Turbo Timer?

Can you say synthetic oil....

Bragging rights? MIY CAR ISZ FASTARRR>>>> I HAVEB A ATUBROTIME#R!@!!!!!!!

Can you say ****** up turbo?

Seriously, I hope you were kidding. Global threadjack off, answer the guy's question and if you don't know, don't post.

 

[jflo]

I installed a boost gauge and an electric oil pressure gauge (both from Autometer) about 4 days ago. Earlier today I was about to install my turbo timer (Blitz FATT) ... and long story short I turned the car on (before installing the turbo timer, i had only gotten the steering wheel cover off) and I looked at my gauges while the car was on, and my water temperature gauge wasn't working. I dont know what could be the problem, b/c it worked after I installed the Autometer gauges. Any ideas?
Thanks
-Michael

PS I tried searching but didn't come up with anything helpful

maybe something you touched while installing the gauges decided to move or something. i doubt removing a steering wheel cover will result in a defective water temp gauge. check your connections.

 

[Wiggles6983]

How long after the installs were done did it start acting up?
this is a stupid question but was the engine hot?

 

[Wiggles422]

besides bragging rights why would you even need a Turbo Timer?

Can you say synthetic oil....

Thanks for your help! (upyours)
And I already have synthetic but I didn't think that would affect the fact that my water temp gauge didnt work, so I didn't mention it.

How long after the installs were done did it start acting up?
this is a stupid question but was the engine hot?

I had been driving four about 4 days, then all of a sudden right before i attempted the TT install it crapped out.
Then engine was cold... but not cold enough to be waaaaay past Cold (I live in FL)

 

[Wiggles422]

Fixed... I jiggled some wires around under the dash and it worked. (shrug)

 

[Wiggles6983]

i know you live in FL.
hell jiggling wires always worked on the jeep, glad you remembered that trick.(2thumbs)

 

[VegasMSP]

i know you live in FL.
hell jiggling wires always worked on the jeep, glad you remembered that trick.
(2thumbs)

Sounds like a loose connection there Wiggles. How did you connect your gauges? Butt connectors, wire taps, or solder? I had a loose connection when I installed my gauges and TT and it wouldn't let my car start (wiggling the wires cured that). Damn butt connectors! So when I installed my EBC I soldered everything and haven't had a problems since.

 

[ebsalem]

Bragging rights? MIY CAR ISZ FASTARRR>>>> I HAVEB A ATUBROTIME#R!@!!!!!!!

Can you say ****** up turbo?

Seriously, I hope you were kidding. Global threadjack off, answer the guy's question and if you don't know, don't post.

Okay, I will post.

Having spent the last 20 years in the trucking industry where all the motors are ball-bearing turbos nobody uses turbo-timers. And most fleets use Dyno oil and still don't use T timers. A turbo timer is a waste of your cash, your gas and your time.

Modern oils don't cook like the old ones did. While it is entirely possible that a car can be setup so that it requires a cooling-off period for the turbo as the motor and turbo were run at max capacity for an extended period it's highly unlikey unless you're on a track, in a race car that's fully prepped.

Want more examples? Look at the Porsche 944 Turbo's that race in the SCCA, they don't need or use turbo timers. And they make a whole lot more power than our MSP's are ever going to.

If you want a turbo timer go ahead and get one, but understand you're buying it for your personal ego or vanity not for a mechanical reason. The money would be better spent taking a member of your prefered gender on a nice date and getting laid.

 

[Wiggles422]

Sounds like a loose connection there Wiggles. How did you connect your gauges? Butt connectors, wire taps, or solder? I had a loose connection when I installed my gauges and TT and it wouldn't let my car start (wiggling the wires cured that). Damn butt connectors! So when I installed my EBC I soldered everything and haven't had a problems since.

For the gauges, I used wire taps. But for the TT (I finished installing today) I soldered everything... I don't want anything coming lose.

 

[t3ase]

Okay, I will post.

Having spent the last 20 years in the trucking industry where all the motors are ball-bearing turbos nobody uses turbo-timers. And most fleets use Dyno oil and still don't use T timers. A turbo timer is a waste of your cash, your gas and your time.

Modern oils don't cook like the old ones did. While it is entirely possible that a car can be setup so that it requires a cooling-off period for the turbo as the motor and turbo were run at max capacity for an extended period it's highly unlikey unless you're on a track, in a race car that's fully prepped.

Want more examples? Look at the Porsche 944 Turbo's that race in the SCCA, they don't need or use turbo timers. And they make a whole lot more power than our MSP's are ever going to.

If you want a turbo timer go ahead and get one, but understand you're buying it for your personal ego or vanity not for a mechanical reason. The money would be better spent taking a member of your prefered gender on a nice date and getting laid.

Definately sounds like I'm the one that needs to be worrying about getting laid.

Dude, you had nothing to add to this guy's thread. In the future, don't post unless it's helpful.

 

[Wiggles422]

If you want a turbo timer go ahead and get one, but understand you're buying it for your personal ego or vanity not for a mechanical reason. The money would be better spent taking a member of your prefered gender on a nice date and getting laid.

Well the way I see it, I'm gonna be making payments on my car for years to come. Why not take a precaution to help make sure it'll last the entire time I'm paying for it. Yes, it has a warranty, but we all know how stealerships can screw you over.

 

[t3ase]

Well the way I see it, I'm gonna be making payments on my car for years to come. Why not take a precaution to help make sure it'll last the entire time I'm paying for it. Yes, it has a warranty, but we all know how stealerships can screw you over.

dont worry about him.

as far as your problem goes, take the car in.

 

[Black Majik MSP]

Okay, I will post.

Having spent the last 20 years in the trucking industry where all the motors are ball-bearing turbos nobody uses turbo-timers. And most fleets use Dyno oil and still don't use T timers. A turbo timer is a waste of your cash, your gas and your time.

Modern oils don't cook like the old ones did. While it is entirely possible that a car can be setup so that it requires a cooling-off period for the turbo as the motor and turbo were run at max capacity for an extended period it's highly unlikey unless you're on a track, in a race car that's fully prepped.

Want more examples? Look at the Porsche 944 Turbo's that race in the SCCA, they don't need or use turbo timers. And they make a whole lot more power than our MSP's are ever going to.

If you want a turbo timer go ahead and get one, but understand you're buying it for your personal ego or vanity not for a mechanical reason. The money would be better spent taking a member of your prefered gender on a nice date and getting laid.

If you're so confident, I'll install a TT on my MSP & let you drive it for a month. I'll take yours (not sure if you even have one) & drive it hard every day & each time, I'll just turn it off immediately. I wonder who's car will last longer? Mazda wouldn't tell you to do it if it wasn't necessary.

 

[kwiktsi]

Okay, I will post.

Having spent the last 20 years in the trucking industry where all the motors are ball-bearing turbos nobody uses turbo-timers. And most fleets use Dyno oil and still don't use T timers. A turbo timer is a waste of your cash, your gas and your time.

Modern oils don't cook like the old ones did. While it is entirely possible that a car can be setup so that it requires a cooling-off period for the turbo as the motor and turbo were run at max capacity for an extended period it's highly unlikey unless you're on a track, in a race car that's fully prepped.

Want more examples? Look at the Porsche 944 Turbo's that race in the SCCA, they don't need or use turbo timers. And they make a whole lot more power than our MSP's are ever going to.

If you want a turbo timer go ahead and get one, but understand you're buying it for your personal ego or vanity not for a mechanical reason. The money would be better spent taking a member of your prefered gender on a nice date and getting laid.

you also left out that almost 99% or modern turbos have "wet" (liquid cooled) bearing housings and unless you are totally beating the snot out of it require virtually no cool down time at all. It is sales and marketing my friend- oh and a little bit of TF&TF mixed in there too .. It is a totally new crowd of people doing this stuff, and they all have their own beliefs. however, I do agree- he was curious about his gauge, not asking about whether he wasted $$$ on his TT or not. Good advice though, hopefully others will follow it. But as long as they continue to beep and flash- I doubt they will ever stop selling .

As for your gauge, I know it works now, but you might still wnat to see exactly which wire was loose and fix it properly to avoid future issues. Good luck.
Joe
Joe

 

[kwiktsi]

I was going to recommend taking it in also, however you know how dealerships are- he added gauges, now a gauge doesn't work- they'll blame him and make it a miserable experience somehow .
Joe

dont worry about him.

as far as your problem goes, take the car in.

 

[kwiktsi]

If you're so confident, I'll install a TT on my MSP & let you drive it for a month. I'll take yours (not sure if you even have one) & drive it hard every day & each time, I'll just turn it off immediately. I wonder who's car will last longer? Mazda wouldn't tell you to do it if it wasn't necessary.

threadjack on -
Actually, unless you shut it off immediately after beating on it (like as the thing is still at 6000 rpms and you just shut the key off), if you still drive even less than one mile normally on your way home, you will not see any issues whatsoever. I have seen DSM's just driven and shut of daily for well over 160K miles. Sorry,I know you always have my back but I just wanted to clarify .
Joe

 

[t3ase]

*pets his beeping & flashing timer*

Thanks Joe..Now, with that said, back on topic. Any other off topic posts need to be in a new thread.