Water/Methanol Injection, Anyone Use It?

[The Great NY]

Talk about a blast from the past. I'm going to be running a meth setup by the end of summer. I have to aquire a 505 mani and J&S first, then its meth time. I'm going to be running a snow stage 2 kit with a fail safe. The reason being is that their failsafe can be wired into the J&S or bpv incase of a loss of meth. Which is an awesome option only offered by them as far as I know.

anyone else using meth?

i run meth in my car

 

[kamon8404]

i run meth in my car

Well what setup are you using?

 

[The Great NY]

Well what setup are you using?

i started off running the Labonte stage 2. then was running the Lobonte stage 2 and the AEM setup together for a while. then i switched over and am not running just the AEM setup and the AEM injection monitoring system.

here's my comparison thread of the Labonte and AEM kit

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...-Stage-2-vs.-AEM-Water-Meth-Injection-Systems

and here is the injection monitoring system

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...EM-Water-Methanol-Injection-Monitoring-System

 

[The Great NY]

s*** actually i never updated the injection monitor one, here...


http://www.6crew.com/forum/showthread.php?16385-REVIEW-AEM-Methanol-Injection-Monitoring-System

 

[kamon8404]

So your using aem. I'm thinking aquamist is the route I'm going to take. I had a labonte kit in the past. I'm going with something different this time.

 

[littlemimus]

since we are on the topic. how safe is it to run meth? ive heard of guys running it and something failing and they end up blowing they're motor cause the tune is so aggressive that when something messes up your effed.

 

[kamon8404]

Well thats like saying i know guys running a manual boost controller and it causes a spike and blows the motor. s*** does happen but, they make fail safes that if the system stops pumping meth for any reason it can switch back to wastegate pressure vice an ebc or even switch to a different map on your ems or retard timing. They are safe if used correctly.

 

[nicholsspeed]

just like Kamon8404 says, there are many ways to failsafe your system.

the biggest culprit ive seen with Meth kits is the tank being empty.
my buddy had a system in his 240, at a track day his last lap the system ran out and he did not have a low level light or warning.

needless to say we had to get the car towed the 8hrs back home.

I myself plan on getting a system for my car as soon as i get my internals done. there are many systems out there, but i would deffffff recomend one that has a low level light, or warning.

 

[kamon8404]

Yea the low level lights are cheap too. Plus a failsafe is definitely clutch. Not to mention you should still look at your tank, especially if you have been using it a lot. Just be smart.

 

[ProjectBlack]

Stupid noob question: Can I run a meth injection on non-turbo FS-DE AT transmission? I believe I know the answer, but I would like to confirm the "no" with someone who knows what they're talking about. Please don't flame this post. I'm on this forum because I'm looking for answers and help, not sarcastic feedback or stupid comments (more stupid than mine! lol!). Thanks for the help.

 

[kamon8404]

You can run meth on an na car. There would just be no point to be honest. You wouldn't be able to get the full potential unless you had a piggyback to tune for it.

 

[hornsfan10609]

Basically no point in modding an AT FSDE.

 

[ProjectBlack]

Yeah...that's what I figured. I'm modding mine for fun, and just to improve aesthetics a bit. Even though it's not fast, it is still a lot more fun to drive with the intake, header, hi flow cat and exhaust. It's an alternative to having a new car payment for me, and it is the car that I have for now. I am the original owner of this and I bought it for work purposes, but of course I now would prefer a 5 speed. Maybe when this car dies, I'll get something a little more in line with "fast".

Thanks for the help!

 

[br289165]

I've got 11:4 to1 compression on my NA motor controlled by a Microtech LT10s, what can a meth system do for me?

 

[The Great NY]

Who said you can't run meth on an NA motor? It not a waste if you have a tuning solution. Same as with boost. Obviously the gains won't equate to the same as a boosted engine. But you will see gains if you tune for it.


What can meth do you? Lower intake and cylinder temps. Increase octane so that you can run more timing and a leaner fuel mixture in essence to make more power. At higher compressions it can definitely help. Just be sure to tune accordingly.

 

[Knox Joe]

So, I'm thinking about adding a little nitromethane to the mix, and making a run for the stock block power record... Coming in Spring 2012

 

[hornsfan10609]

It's 277 whp right? Shouldn't be impossible but certainly not easy.

 

[Knox Joe]

It's 277 whp right? Shouldn't be impossible but certainly not easy.

Yeah, 277whp.

I'm going in March to get a tune in NC from a well known tuner, so we'll see what she puts down on 14psi and go from there. I may need to do a little PnP on the IM, maybe cams, and lightened pulleys.

 

[JDMazdaFamilia]

I'll be running meth soon so sub!

 

[bwlknsn91]

Bringing back an old thread with a few n00b questions. First, what are the benefits of running a meth injection system? And the second, is it safe to do so running on stock internals for a daily driven car? Thanks guys!