WARNING! All Turbo MP3's

[Adam3482P]

from what I remember thats it. I can't find any threads on it but I remember them saying someone broke into the docks and stole like all of them.

 

[mushin25]

the original radio was the 828 which is better than the 919. they replaced the 828 that was stolen with the 919. this is what i was told at least. i have a 828 in my mp3.

 

[Adam3482P]

nooo I thought it was all original 919 (the bad one). and then they were all stolen and kenwood had discontinued the 919 so they put in the 828's

 

[alec172]

And NASA engineers said that one tile probably wouldn't make too much of a difference. Look what happened, little things added up to one big thing, then BOOM. The less little things you have going wrong, the less chance you have of that one big thing going wrong.

lol(lol)

 

[alec172]

The regular Proteges and MP3 ECU are not EPROM. They cant be erased and reprogrammed. Thats why they cant change it. They can only add stuff.

 

[Keith@FP]

Okay, I've been away for a bit. A few thoughts that came to mind as I scrolled through this.

An FMU (which is a terrible name, btw, not descriptive at all) is perfectly safe for running boost. We have a customer with over 200,000 miles on his turbo system with our AFPR. Never had a problem.

Bad tuning, running out of oil, running bad gas, overheating, having parts fall off - those are bad for engines. That's how you crack pistons, bend rods, etc. Bad tuning being the biggest problem, but I can't believe the number of guys who seem to run their cars with obvious mechanical problems...

The Link piggyback that Terry is using on his car retails for $895 without boost control. That doesn't include injectors, though.

The manifold design makes little to no difference with respect to engine safety. An extremely poor design will lead to high EGTs which is a problem, but I don't know of any of those on the market right now.

Keith

 

[1sty]

Speaking of tuning, where is the rate adjustment screw on your FPR set Keith?
I still have mine totaly shut for safety.

 

[Kooldino]

You know what, I could give a s*** if all your motors crapped out. The lack of oil was one of the causes of the pistons being cracked, I believe the advanced timing also had something to do with it. If you dissagree, that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion just like I am. Like I said, I thought I'd be nice and warn all of you. Take it or leave it.

Whoa whoa, hey now! We all (or at least I) greatly appreciate the warning, and am taking actions because of it. Don't be mad at all of us just because people are playing devil's advocate.

 

[Kooldino]

again anyone using a BTC. that is almost a must for turbo na motors. Thats what all the honda guys run. Jackson racing, MSD and some others make them

What is BTC?

 

[Adam3482P]

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Originally posted by I-Am-Chris
again anyone using a BTC. that is almost a must for turbo na motors. Thats what all the honda guys run. Jackson racing, MSD and some others make them
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What is BTC?


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I was thinking more of how can you have a Turbo NA motor

 

[Kooldino]

The Link piggyback that Terry is using on his car retails for $895 without boost control. That doesn't include injectors, though.

So...$895, eh? Doesn't sound too bad. Couple it with some injectors..sell it for $1200 or so...what stopping you?

 

[LinuxRacr]

So...$895, eh? Doesn't sound too bad. Couple it with some injectors..sell it for $1200 or so...what stopping you?

Ease of installation, testing by FP, and instructions.

 

[spoolinmp3]

And manufacturing an intake manifold to support the injectors........thats the biggie. You are lookin at 1500 dollars for a piggy back

 

[spoolinmp3]

also a secondary fuel rail and other misc parts

 

[1sty]

I take it larger capacity injectors can't just screw in then?

 

[LinuxRacr]

I take it larger capacity injectors can't just screw in then?

They accually can. Terry is refering to the extra injectors for the Link. Also, if you put in some considerably larger injectors, you will need something to control them or your drivability will suck!

 

[1sty]

They accually can. Terry is refering to the extra injectors for the Link. Also, if you put in some considerably larger injectors, you will need something to control them or your drivability will suck!

I know about the larger injectors without a control setup but it sounded like it wasn't possible to run larger injectors without a new fuel rail for a second.

 

[Kooldino]

So why not just put in bigger injectors and use the link? Theoretically speaking...

 

[Keith@FP]

The link piggyback controls auxiliary injectors. It does not affect the primary injectors at all.

Installing one on a Protege right now would involve a fair bit of work.

Keith

 

[Kooldino]

The link piggyback controls auxiliary injectors. It does not affect the primary injectors at all.

Installing one on a Protege right now would involve a fair bit of work.

Keith

Ok, what would it need...to do it like Terry did for example...
a different fuel rail...
the link kit...
four more injectors...

This may be our best option guys. We already know it works.