VTEC Dave stopped waitin', now which car should he get?

As sad as it is the aftermarket guys are going to know more that the techs. Techs replace not rebuild a majority of the time... There are quite a few reputable Honda shops out there that probably know exactly what is wrong with the car. Oh, just never tell them the dealership just gave you $5500. LMAO!
 
So why don't you leave your car in Detroit for awhile?oh first you need to post all you mods on Xceedspeed.com that should get rid of your SI so you can buy my Rsx:D
 
welll like i said it was at a shop before....and after them having it for a week it boiled down to electrical problems of some sort...its the only thing affected by heat...but it was at the point where he would need to begin tearing apart things and testing all the different connections and sensors...

at this point im probably gonna sit on the money and car...i mean if i can get it fixed and it costs 1-2k then thats great...but im not gonna dump a lot fo money into just finding out the issue....when I KNOW its gonna cost me only 2800$ for the k20/k24 setup, and i will still have my stock motor which i can either decide to keep or sell it...im sure its gotta be worth at least 800-1200$ for the bottom end and the head
 
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doing the swap will replace all sensors...only thing that stays is the main wiring harness...i wanna get a dashhawk something that can monitor and tell me the cam angles and stuff...that would be nice, because obvoiusly when the car is in vtec and not making power something is changing because it had just made power in the gear before
 
nah if it was oil pressure then the cams wouldn't switch over but they do...i guess it coudl be lol.

i mean the way i see it...is I can keep driving it until something breaks...and when it does it eliminates me spending all that money to find whats wrong...but i mean i have driven this car hard for 11k miles and so far nothing has given in
 
Dave, you're not at the level of know-how to perform that kind of swap, and if you do, I wouldn't do it for your daily driver. Getting it fixed back to the way it should be is one thing, and you're wrong, electrical components aren't affected directly by heat, but rather a sensor that might be reading temp. as an input variable is skewed. It could be something like a thermocouple with a broken wire or a bad lead, it will send out a false reading, we see those at work from time to time. Same principle applies...false input causing a logic device to improperly perform a computation.
 
and no i wasn't gonna do the swap myself...my dad im sure could handle pulling the motor but i would have pure tuning install the new one..and i dont see reliability being bad...its gonna be a stock motor....

but like i said its just an idea and an option...obviously i need time before i decide on what route im taking
 
I don't feel like an engine swap on a daily driver is reliable, no matter who installs it. You'd be better off fixing it and just driving it until the value levels off and you can get ahead in your payments down the road. If you're not gonna do anything right this minute, then it won't be more cost effective down the road either.
 
Dude Dave if you keep your SI or ever buy a honda again i will fly up there and slap the heck out of you NO JOKE you should have never sold your mazda 3 in the first place that was a hella nice looking car (in my eyes) it got good MPG and handled pretty good. In my own opinion buy something nice but still pretty cheap for now because all that is going to happen to it now is get the piss beat out of it every day going to the big D. Wait till you have a at least half way good paying job were your can make a higher payment then what is needed every month and not settle for something less then what you REALLY want because u cant afford it at this time. then you can do what i am doin a 1000 a month on my car so i can pay it off in like 10 months. My vote is for a mazda 3 again. Maybe even speed3
 
I don't feel like an engine swap on a daily driver is reliable, no matter who installs it. You'd be better off fixing it and just driving it until the value levels off and you can get ahead in your payments down the road. If you're not gonna do anything right this minute, then it won't be more cost effective down the road either.

O come on

it's a k24 why wouldn't it be reliable?? It would be stock, not like we're talking a turbo, or supercharged, or even nitrous..it would be fine.....however what wouldn't be fine is droping a new motor in there until the problem is resolved it could be a sensor, it could be in the wiring harness! Which is what i would suspect......besides the ecm seeing that it's not the original ecm, remember the ecm was swapped when the car wasn't running..................cause the original owner sold the hondata(uhm) I still suspect that it' in the wiring or the ecm..... i never beleive that it's somehting else until there is proof of a bad motor............(bolt) the original owner traded the car in after it was fixed because he said it just didn't feel right afterwards...
 
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O come on

it's a k24 why wouldn't it be reliable?? It would be stock, not like we're talking a turbo, or supercharged, or even nitrous..it would be fine.....however what wouldn't be fine is droping a new motor in there until the problem is resolved it could be a sensor, it could be in the wiring harness! Which is what i would suspect......besides the ecm seeing that it's not the original ecm, remember the ecm was swapped when the car wasn't running..................cause the original owner sold the hondata(uhm) I still suspect that it' in the wiring or the ecm..... i never beleive that it's somehting else until there is proof of a bad motor............(bolt) the original owner traded the car in after it was fixed because he said it just didn't feel right afterwards...

I'm not saying Honda motors aren't reliable at all, but rather that the concept of engine swapping is not good. There's always something. Go search on here and see how many people run into issues when they swap motors, it's a pretty common occurance. As soon as you deviate heavily from the OEM setup, it changes things. The K24 would be more nose heavy, which would also affect the dynamics of the vehicle. It's not just 'take out A to put in B' kinda thing, it's a very complicated procedure. Definitely not something I recommend for someone who's gonna put 20-25k miles on it in a year.
 
yea who knows....at this point i wanna get a dashhawk and monitor my a/f levels when the car doesn't start.....im pretty sure this has to do with the ignition timing or something....cuz u just can't make power and then not unless its changing
 
I didn't think that honda was bad it just sounded like there would be problems with the reliability like a turbo motor......there are a few on the 8th civic board that have done the swap, which would d make the hardest part easy, they can tell u what needs to be done, i could be wrong but i don't beleive there is alot of issues with doing the swap... i maybe not right but i'd be supprised if there is more than a 50lb difference with the swap...(eekdance) If money and time would permit i would consider the swap, provided i needed a motor in the first place..(lol2) The problem is dave just thinks out loud and doesn't listen, he just does........glad i'm not his age again(lol2)(lol2)
 
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