Vendor and Consumer Protection Guidelines

LinuxRacr

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2001 Mazda MP3
Lately, and in the past I have seen a very bad trend develop. Good vendors who fabricate products for our forums have gotten a bad taste in their mouths due to the attitudes and actions of some of the members here, and have left our community, taking with them the products developed for our cars. People, this is not a good thing. For those of you who were around in the early days of this community, you know that we had NOTHING in the form of aftermarket support for our cars. People had to work hard to get a vendor to take a risk to develop parts for our cars.

We want to avoid chasing away good vendors who support our community with remarks like that, and BS from folks who don't take up issues with the vendor before posting. Vendors pay to keep this site alive. One such example of this:

A customer orders a product, and is told by the vendor that there will be a wait on the product to get it fabricated and produced. The customer understands and agrees. Weeks go by, and the customer gets impatient and forgets. The customer decides to post on the forums saying that they have paid the vendor a helluva lot of money, and that they have not recieved their part WITHOUT taking it up with the vendor 1st! This sends ripples of uncertainty to any potential customers who read this, and takes even more time away from the vendor who has to answer EXTRA phone calls and PM's to uncertain customers to assure them that they are not scammers instead of working on completing orders. Another thing that happens is someone who doesn't know the truth starts to flame the vendor. This is not only unacceptable, but does not help at all. The vendor now has to deal with a shitstorm on multiple fronts. Ultimately, the consumer who started the mess in the first place, has to retract their post when they are reminded of the agreement. Folks, all I can say about this is that it is a big headache for all parties involved, especially when it could have been avoided in the 1st place.

On the other hand, we don't want vendors on the forum with BAD customer service, and who is only out for the money. I've seen a lot of bone-headedness on both sides over the years, and believe it or not, one post can affect EVERYTHING! I am working with other forum members to come up with guidelines that will protect the costomer AND the vendor. We have to turn this situation around before we have no quality aftermarket left..
 
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I could not agree more. I commend those who have taken time to come up with products for forum members / mazda owners. Many of which are designed and made around our wants and needs.
 
Great Idea man, I am trying to help Riles figure somethings out with the CF SRI, and CAI.

Thanks for bringing this out in the open.
 
Pat, you deserve a big round of applause!

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good job, sometimes its hard to do product research anymore with all the mixed feedback on venders.
 
agreed! too much crap going around and too many people jumping to conclusions. quality takes time and patience is a virtue
 
This is really an important issue...The question is...how can we offer effective protection for both the vendor and member? Not only protection but create an environment that promotes a healthy aftermarket. Pat's dead on about this...In the early days of this community...we had to be patient and motivated to get the parts we wanted and it's no different today...We don't have the luxury of mainstream aftermarket support...Yes we have to work a little harder but we've got specialized cars for specialized owners...and we need a specialized aftermarket...So either help out or get out ;)

Please understand the cycle people!..Support Mazda Forums AV's = More AV involvement = More members = More Aftermarket support = Much needed funds = Mazda Forums future = The Mazda Aftermarket!
 
Too little, too late. The majority of the aftermarket can give a rat's ass about making new parts for our cars.
 
JDM Sam said:
Too little, too late. The majority of the aftermarket can give a rat's ass about making new parts for our cars.

+1

and some i know plan on pulling out real soon.
 
One thing though, Is it fair to other vendors for people with "power" (moderators, etc.) To use their "power" to promote one vendors product? I agree with keeping people happy, but playing favorites never has a good outcome.
 
JDM Sam said:
Too little, too late. The majority of the aftermarket can give a rat's ass about making new parts for our cars.

While that may be somewhat the case in a minor sense, we have to work to keep the vendors we do have. We have GREAT vendors here.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
One thing though, Is it fair to other vendors for people with "power" (moderators, etc.) To use their "power" to promote one vendors product? I agree with keeping people happy, but playing favorites never has a good outcome.

If this is happening, report it. If I was doing that, I would want to know.
 
JDM Sam said:
Too little, too late. The majority of the aftermarket can give a rat's ass about making new parts for our cars.


That is sad that the majority has to suffer for the mistakes of the few.....I understand people have short fuses, and one misunderstanding can ruin a whole lot, but instead of TAKING YOU BALL AND QUITIING THE GAME because of the pissant few....why not let the community handle it. These aftermarket companies need to continue making products for Mazda's for the simple fact that WE NEED THEM, don't stop doing something you love to do(while making money off of it as well) that is not the answer..that's a child's way out. Mazda Needs this...We appriciate YOU!
 
Anytime a thread like those are stickied, it is meant to only be stickied till the group buy ends so that folks don't miss out. It was a request. There are better methods of doing stuff like that we willing to explore.
 
J dragon said:
That is sad that the majority has to suffer for the mistakes of the few.....I understand people have short fuses, and one misunderstanding can ruin a whole lot, but instead of TAKING YOU BALL AND QUITIING THE GAME because of the pissant few....why not let the community handle it. These aftermarket companies need to continue making products for Mazda's for the simple fact that WE NEED THEM, don't stop doing something you love to do(while making money off of it as well) that is not the answer..that's a child's way out. Mazda Needs this...We appriciate YOU!

The thing is when the vendor has other markets available, and are not getting the same hasles from them, why would they stick around to be "beaten" on?
 
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