well i guess that answers my question...i take it your car is still at andy's? i emailed him about the pipe because he wanted to charge me tax and i was like you shouldnt need to over the internet...so i emailed him to see if he figured that out, and also when my pipe was gonna get made, but he hasnt responded, i guess hes busy with another job?! stay tuned, im painting my heat shield the same blue, cause it looks outta place...all the blue might look a bit tacky, but im gonna get some red hoses, maybe 1st mp3 ground kit in red, and some red caps i might do myself...hopefully it wont look overboard, but until i get my AWR headers the heat shield looks nasty in that cheap aluminum color...