Used Turbo Kit on ebay?!

[bbrich57]

Well for the MS3 one article states that Mazda heat treated the axles to better take the 250lb.ft. torque, which is a far cry from 300+. And while no one has said anything about the CV joints that I've seen, I would hope that they are also beefier than the standard 3's too.
And Jeph, I just happened to see an adapter on eBay for the t2 to t3 turbos. I don't know any more about it than the picture which showed a flange on each side with a short box section in the middle.

 

[bbrich57]

Man! This thread is sure getting a workout today!! Put the words "used" and "turbo" in a thread heading and see what happens? (lol)

 

[Jeph]

How thick is the adapter? Because depending on the thickness, some of the piping for the intercooler would have to be redone for it to fit correctly. Not to mention the Downpipe may not fit anymore either if you used a different turbo, in which case you'd be better off fabbing a whole new kit...

 

[funktownp5]

That turbo would be a good fit for the 2.3. Probably hit full boost right before

4K, i dont understand why people like to put small turbochargers in their kits?

(I think a GT28RS is on the smaller side of turbos)

 

[tsunami]

b/c some people don't want the headache that comes with 300hp on a car that was only made to hold 160hp...

thats pretty much the first and biggest reason that comes to mind. so you then ask your self why they are modding in the first place...???

 

[bbrich57]

Think of it this way, there are different levels and classes of racing aren't there? Putting 300+hp in a chassis designed for 160 means a complete make over and a lot of $$$$$.
Some of us would rather run brackets than top fuel, and that's all some of us can afford too.

 

[bbrich57]

How thick is the adapter? Because depending on the thickness, some of the piping for the intercooler would have to be redone for it to fit correctly. Not to mention the Downpipe may not fit anymore either if you used a different turbo, in which case you'd be better off fabbing a whole new kit...

Here. Check them out for yourself and see. I don't know enough about it.

http://motors.search.ebay.com/t3-t4-adapter_Turbos-Nitrous-Superchargers_W0QQcatrefZC6QQfclZ3QQfgtpZQQfmmdZQQfmmkZQQfposZQ5AIPQ2fPostalQQfromZR2QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQfyhiZQQfyloZQQlopgZQQmppfqyZt3Q20t4Q20adapterQQsacatZ33739QQsadisZ200QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs

 

[Jeph]

Here. Check them out for yourself and see. I don't know enough about it.

http://motors.search.ebay.com/t3-t4-adapter_Turbos-Nitrous-Superchargers_W0QQcatrefZC6QQfclZ3QQfgtpZQQfmmdZQQfmmkZQQfposZQ5AIPQ2fPostalQQfromZR2QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQfyhiZQQfyloZQQlopgZQQmppfqyZt3Q20t4Q20adapterQQsacatZ33739QQsadisZ200QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs

Thats a pretty significant adapter. I think changing the turbo position that much on the 3 could cause problems. There isn't much clearance back there anyways, and changing it would affect intercooler piping, and make the downpipe hang lower exposing it lower ground cleareance.

 

[bbrich57]

I thought it to be fairly compact. But as you say, and from the pics I've seen of an install, there doesn't seem to be too much room back there w/a turbo. I've often wondered if it increased the heat generated inside the cabin?
So, is anyone going after this monster before the 17th?

 

[funktownp5]

Think of it this way, there are different levels and classes of racing aren't there? Putting 300+hp in a chassis designed for 160 means a complete make over and a lot of $$$$$.
Some of us would rather run brackets than top fuel, and that's all some of us can afford too.

Huh? not afforable, if you pieced out this kit it would come close to $3K. Also

you dont have to spend a lot of money to be fast, just a simple set-up; like

this one and you will make great power and still be reliable. Someone should

jump all over this DEAL!; if I had a 3 I would.

 

[Jeph]

something with a standalone isn't simple

 

[funktownp5]

something with a standalone isn't simple

Whats not simple about it? Wire it in and have a tuner that actually knows

what he is doing to tune and VOLA, a car that is reliable and powerful.

 

[Jeph]

A) there aren't many tuners who have dealt with the microtech, so finding one who can competently tune one isn't easy.

B) tuning a standalone isn't easy anyways. You have so many variables. Cold start, crank amps, decel fuel, partial throttle tuning, etc...

What are you running for EMS in your P5?

 

[funktownp5]

A) there aren't many tuners who have dealt with the microtech, so finding one who can competently tune one isn't easy.

B) tuning a standalone isn't easy anyways. You have so many variables. Cold start, crank amps, decel fuel, partial throttle tuning, etc...

What are you running for EMS in your P5?

I am not running a stand alone (e-manage), but i can guaranty that my car

runs alot better than a lot of others. The only problem i have is that i have a

CEL from the EGR being block off whenever I put a 626 single runner manifold,

but it doesnt affect anything(25+MPG and runs like stock). I guess I am

lucky that I know a great Tuner and that he is a friend of mine.

 

[Jeph]

I don't doubt that it runs well. I'm saying from experience, that a standalone isn't easy. I had a piggyback first, and tuning it was so much more simple, anything out of boost the stock PCM controlled, but in boost i could add and subtract fuel and timing as needed which worked really well.
When i went standalone it was much more complex to tune. You are basically starting from scratch and tuning EVERYTHING that it takes to get an engine running. At first i got terrible mileage because i couldn't get the decel values right, so i was wasting tons of fuel when i wasn't on the gas. Eventually i was able to tune it out, and got an amazing 27-30 mpg even driving it hard.
My point is you take a completely custom turbo setup, with a standalone EMS, someones daily driver, and you have just gotten yourself into a very big mess that is NOT easy to get out of. You have to have a lot of patience, time, and extra cash because something ALWAYS goes wrong.

 

[tsunami]

Huh? not afforable, if you pieced out this kit it would come close to $3K. Also

you dont have to spend a lot of money to be fast, just a simple set-up; like

this one and you will make great power and still be reliable. Someone should

jump all over this DEAL!; if I had a 3 I would.

the microtech is 1400 not sure on the precision turbo but i would say probab 1g there plus the intercooler and all the piping and a bov and waste gate i would say closer to 4k just in the actual pieces let alone the fact that it works and fits... not sure where the reserve is though???

 

[p5sundevil]

and while the turbo is capable of those high numbers and would require a complete buildup to handle it, who says you have to run it at those numbers...plenty of people with HiBoost or MAM kits started them at 6-7 psi untill they got forged internals, then went to 9-11psi, then when they upgrade the clutch/tranny and so forth they could mess with 12-15psi no worries.....so in theory you could get this kit at that awesome price, install and run it at low low boost untill you can afford the other upgrades.

looks like a deal to me, if I had a 3 that is....