US Diesel's big splash introduction
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- 2021 CX-9 Sig
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- 2021 CX-5 GT
My dealer has basically said it won't come for 2018. Maybe 2019 but don't get my hopes up.
Until they fully remove it from their website, there is still some hope
Think they are guessing
I’d read the recent comments reported in Green Car Reports to indicate that the decision to release the diesel is being re-evaluated at the executive level, perhaps still awaiting input from final results of emissions testing, particularly how high the mileage ratings are and DEF consumption. If it were just a technical issue of delayed emissions approval, I think they’d say this and recommit. Instead they’re essentially saying “no comment”, probably because upper management has told them to say nothing until a final decision is reached.
I’d rate the chance of a USA diesel CX-5 at 25% at this point. This has been poorly managed by Mazda and given their competitive disadvantages with respect to the larger players, they can ill afford appearing so incompetent. It reflects poorly on the brand as a whole.
- Mark
I’d rate the chance of a USA diesel CX-5 at 25% at this point. This has been poorly managed by Mazda and given their competitive disadvantages with respect to the larger players, they can ill afford appearing so incompetent. It reflects poorly on the brand as a whole.
- Mark
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- 2022 2.5GT
As with all mass car makers, these decisions have to be justified and the bottom has just about dropped out of the Diesel engine market in the U.K. and other European countries where moves are afoot to heavily tax diesels and even completely eliminate them from some city centres.
That may make diesels hard to justify at Mazda. Toyota have already deleted them from their model line up and seen sales increase.
That may make diesels hard to justify at Mazda. Toyota have already deleted them from their model line up and seen sales increase.
Imo it’s more like Mazda trying to tap the diesel market right when SHTF from VW/Audi and everything changed. New govt regulations and other changes in a short period of time. Other manufacturers are dropping diesel. So one might say bad timing and another will say bad luck.
As this thread keeps going in circles, the question still is, with SkyActiv X around the corner, is diesel still viable? I know the diesel fans will say yes but Mazda had to prove a viable ROI to keep plugging away at the option.
I understand that. The percentage of buyers who rely on that spec is small though in the US. In the UK and Europe where diesel has been more popular, it must be a shock to see what is happening.
Not really I don't see diesel cars disappearing anytime soon. Diesel lorries, trains and buses either.
The only concern are residuals, but then lack of demand for diesel will make them cheaper to buy, larger discounts.
There's been a lot of overreaction with some buyers panicking and buying petrol cars with higher VED due to increased co2, and reduced mpg.
There's also an incredible amount of ignorance regarding DPF equipped cars.
PS anyone notice the increased number of electric car fires? not something I would want parking in my integral garage, same with a petrol car.
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New RDX for her, diesel(lord willing)CX5 and 2nd gen BRZ4me..I like to think aheadbut yes new RDX does look good- and fits right into what we'll need going forward..ie ditching the 3 row its waste for us, we almost never use it and nothing but complaints when we have (Highlander) which she likes but I think she'll take the small downsize for added well just about everything else other than displacement and maybe resale but it should do ok...question now is how much and how much for the Aspec with all the goodies..time will tell but looks like Acura is at least trying to find its way back with this iteration.
We've been looking into the 2019 RDX too. Given its bigger size, we'll appreciate the extra rear legroom and cargo capacity. Here is a RDX technical video (April 14): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6vg-0daHv8
It'll likely cost 30% more than CX5 GT D, but if it delivers near what the hype promises, it could be worth it. Of course we all know that sometimes promises come up short. The 10 speed, in the top trim of this years Honda Odyssey, has received very good reviews.
I think the Canadian site is just more responsive. It disappeared there first last year too. The US site just doesn't update.
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Is it around the corner? Is it really? Can you trust mazda to make good on anything as big as a new combustion method when they can't even make good on nav or apple CarPlay or remote start...in 2018?
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As someone who listens to promises from Mazda, only to find out they were of no substance, I consider you an expert on repetitive behaviors so I digress.
Mazda CX-5 diesel: engine still MIA in compact crossover utility vehicle
Seems your regulations are causing the delays and consider:
"Audi and Volkswagen will no longer sell diesel vehicles in the U.S., and Mercedes-Benz also appears to have walked away from that option, citing low gasoline prices, the high cost of certifying diesels for U.S. sales at low volumes, and a lack of buyer interest in fuel economy"
Maybe Mazda might eventually give up entirely. A possibility which would be a shame as the 2.2L is a good engine.
Seems your regulations are causing the delays and consider:
"Audi and Volkswagen will no longer sell diesel vehicles in the U.S., and Mercedes-Benz also appears to have walked away from that option, citing low gasoline prices, the high cost of certifying diesels for U.S. sales at low volumes, and a lack of buyer interest in fuel economy"
Maybe Mazda might eventually give up entirely. A possibility which would be a shame as the 2.2L is a good engine.
